And where did I insult you in this ? The point is that it would be a situation of "Pot calling kettle black" . Except of course , none of the two hint at it at all .[Quote]
I did not say you insulted me personally... It was you and the sister dear heart who brought insults against Lord Jesus (implied improper behaviour) by using a Bible verse in an inflammatory manner. Really, it's gone now. I am prepared to see you did not realise it was offensive. Besides.. Personal insults I can rise above, they mean nothing to me. :)
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Alright , let's forget about the translators as it was a mistake of me to bring them up while they're unrelated .
Good idea... :)
شمائل
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Roughly written in English as "Shamaa'il" . The sound of the second "a" is long and after it you stop for a moment and then give the sound of an "i" . It means good charecteristics ..... I think :/ .
Nice user name. However until Sister dear heart gives me permission to refer to her by her user name I shall refrain from doing so. Do you have a "roughly written English" equivalent user name? And would you object if I referred to you by it.. If you wished to share it of course.
Good.. Here's a virtual hug from a stranger.. (((( hug ))))
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Alright , Islam taught us to forgive as well but not in any and all situations . It is a fact that there are evil ones who don't hesitate to do evil things . That's where it is necessary to stop them with force . This is a related sign :
Jesus said we were to forgive our enemies. I always feel it a shame when some Christians fail to do live up to this demand. It's is the hardest thing but I have found ultimately the most rewarding. I can see the value in this command upon us.. Because retaliation only ever escalates and revenge is always destructive.. You only have to look at the world today to see what destruction revenge causes. It comes down to love again!!! ;)
~ ~ ~ 9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. 10 Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves. 11 Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. 12 Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. 13 Share with the Lord’s people who are in need. Practice hospitality.
14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.
17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. ~ ~ ~
Another saying.. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.. Don't know if you have heard of it..
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And truely , we don't ultimately judge others as to say "This one goes to heaven and this one goes to hell" . But we do state what's right or wrong . For example , I may not call someone who drink alcohol evil but I do state that it's a bad thing and harmful to health . And there are clearly ones we can call "evil" by default . Those who commit hideous crimes and history is full of them . World War 2 is an example .
I'm sure this stands for all religions. It's not our place to judge. However, for some people that is not so easy to achieve. I don't see anyone as being born inherently evil.. So don't agree with evil by default description here. We are shaped by many things in our life and a person can be attracted to evil. Once pure evil is allowed into a persons heart, that person is lost to its power and held in its sway. There are far more pertinent examples to choose than WW2... Evil is alive and well and flourishes in many parts of the world today. Another saying.. For evil to thrive all it takes is for good men to do nothing..
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Also , "Zakat" is a pillar of Islam . With any of the pillars lost , one's Islam is incomplete . To be quick , "Zakah or Zakat" is mandatory for everyone capable of it and it's given yearly to the poor and needing . It has conditions and judgements for different situations and so . The other one is called "Sadaqah" . And while it's not mandatory , it is encouraged and can be given at any time . That's why I see such things which make me happy :)
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...n_3630830.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5193093.html
charity should be second nature to every person.. It should not be an obligation but an intrinsic understanding of the need to care for those less fortunate than ourselves. I believe a society can be measured by how it treats it's weakest members.. If you fail these people then you fail all. However, if Zakat works then it's a good thing. Yet it has not addressed the issue of poverty in the 1400 years it's been in operation in Muslim societies though, so maybe the people are at fault not the system.
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Wealth isn't wrong in itself of course , but one most control it and be controlled with it . We are taught that as well .
I agree it isn't wrong.. But I see excessive personal wealth can be. The world we live in operates on money.. Wealth.. Our lives are governed by it.. We either have too much or not enough or we always want more than we need. Yet we rarely stop to think for what purpose do we store wealth for the sake of having it? Unless we use our wealth to share with the community we live in then it benefits us nothing. We come into the world with nothing and we leave the world the same state.
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When it comes to hypocricy , do you know that hypocrites in religion are in the deepest levels of hell ?
And hypocricy in anything is bigoted as well . Lying is among the great sins called "Kabaa'ir" (Singular is "Kabiirah") .
As for trust and believe , we believe in Allah and what he sent his prophets and messengers with .
The understanding of what constitutes a sin I should imagine is pretty much the same for all of us. I see the way we perceive sin and the affect it has upon us and in relation to God is different. I think this is important. I started a thread on this topic thinking to explore it further but no one was interested in pursuing it. No matter. :)
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Literal and illiteral are both wrong for us .
Yes.. I see that. That's down to how we perceive God differently. Allah is unknowable and distant.. YHWH is knowable and close to us as family.
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PLEASE don't bring uo the claim of "Prophet Muhammad - peace upon him - took things from Christianity , Judaism , Hinduism , etc" because since we have records of his life - in details after prophecy - and since we all know he couldn't read or write his own language - let alone other languages - and he never left the Arabian pensuila and the pagans would have noticed if he was taking things from someone , I say , since all of that is a fact , claiming he took things from other religions would be - no offense - ridiculous .
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