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am I to understand here that if someone you don't like, says something you don't agree with you feel that "tit for tat you insult my prophet I'll insult yours" kind of response is justified, even if it means using something defamatory and something you do not believe to be true! Don't you think that's a wee bit immature?
You're minsunderstanding . I don't mean I'll say "Your religion is "censor" since you insult my religion" . It's just to make such people with dirty minds back off . The conversation would be something like :
"You falsely allegated gay activity to our religion with a narration you misrepresent . Still , with that mentality , you'll probably think the same with that certain verse in your own book . Of course , there's nothing wrong with either but the problem lies in you"
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What are you on about???? What do you mean by "twisted understanding"? Do you see it as wrong for men to hug each other? Do you see it as shameful that a disciple laid his head on Jesus breast/chest in what was probably a moment of extreme emotion. Is there no room for love at all in Islam that you understand it so little?
Dear lord ! You're completely misunderstanding me ! Of course there is nothing wrong with hugging a person or resting one's head on the other's chest . And the opinion of those who think this is a sign of weakness isn't worth a penny . What I'm saying is that if the translators of some of those translations changed the thing from "on his chest" to "next to him" because they had such twisted understandings , you should be blaming them .
So , am I clear ? I'm not saying that verse is hinting at gay activities in any way . In fact , the first time I mentioned it was to deny it ! I thought that sister Shama'il brough it up because she meant this but maybe I misunderstood her as well .
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A question for you.. If you saw a stranger who was terribly upset and distraught would you stop and comfort them or walk on by?
I would try to do what I can to comfort him . Personally though , hugging him would be awkward because he's a stranger :/ .
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No.. Friend.. I would never declare you would go to hell. It's not my wish for anyone to suffer hell. However, I feel I fail in my Christian duty if I do not tell what I believe Jesus said was truth, that He is the only Way, He is the Truth and He is the Life. You have rejected Him, and it's ok for you to reject Him but I see it is important to know what it is you reject. I don't feel that as a Muslim you really know enough about what Jesus said and taught, and you blindly reject what could be something crucial to your redemption. Seek and you shall find, knock and the door will be opened.
I say that Islam teaches us any virtue taught by the prophets through history . So what is it that Christ peace upon him taught according to your belief ?
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Because God said He was and Jesus said He was. By biological I was meaning the implied act of procreation in human terms. If you take that a child inherits DNA from both it's parents which forms it's being, nature and characteristics then the two involved in the creation of Jesus were God and Mary. Jesus existed with God from eternity as Gods Word.. As Gods eternal and uncreated Word Jesus shared essence with God it's neither unbecoming or unfitting for God to incarnate His Word into flesh if He so willed it. The Bible recognises the fact that nothing is impossible with God and we know God exists outside our sphere of understanding and we know there is nothing like God. We do not put restrictions upon God.
Nice , that's your belief . Ours differ though .
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Well! I always thought we did .. and muslims worshipped the same God as the Prophets knew and worshipped .. Which is YHWH. I assumed Allah was the Arabic name for YHWH/God. So really I'm not sure who you are worshipping when you say things like that.. And underline for emphasis. You must act according to your faith.. I simply answered a query asked of me why Christians would never use this title for Jesus. It being a personal affront to my person I can live with.
You do realize that we don't believe God is 3 in one right ? Or that he has a son ? And the charecteristics differ between Islam and Christianity . About the undelined though , fair enough .
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No we do not believe that Jesus talked in the cradle or that He created life from clay birds. These accounts were first found in Christian folk tales attributed to people who lived far too late to have any connection with Jesus at all. Which is why they lack provenance. It's a bit like muslims using the "Gospel of Barnabas" an claiming it as a true account.. History has shown that to be a forgery believed to be from the Middle Ages. In fact I don't believe muslims would use it now. Although the "infancy Gospel of Thomas" is not as late as that it is still considered to be too late to be taken as a true account. You believe it as you will.. I just state why Christians don't accept it..
Gospel of what ?! Anyway , our source of saying he spoke in cradle and made birds of clay alive is not such historical text whatsoever . It's the noble Quran itself . And when we believe through evidence that Islam is true , we believe in what it says . So either the records of him talking as an infant were lost for a long time or that they were hidden as Quran states in Islamic belief .
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