If you say so.
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Wait what ? Now I won't go further into prophets who only had "signs" - although I don't agree - and I'll focus on the main thing . I told you that he was born only of a mother and spoke in cradle because that was one of the miracles Allah gave him to leave no room for objection to the people of Israel . Not all of them believed of course but that's beside the point . The point is that miracles in their many forms - if you need to know what I mean , ask - are evidence of someone's prophecy . And that's how it was with the Christ peace upon him .
Why was it necessary for Jesus to speak from the cradle? Was being born of a virgin not miracle enough?? For me personally the annunciation by Angel Gabriel was proof enough of Jesus status. The only reason that Jesus appears to speak from the cradle.. Was to somehow clear His mother Mary of calumny of those who would accuse her of being unchaste. Which as Mary had God with her for protection it was not necessary for the baby Jesus to speak thus.
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I don't act "rude" in standard cases . But let's be honest , when you and burnlight insisted on the claim that "Islam doesn't say the people of the book corrupted their books" in addition to him distracting the subject all the time - and I can count at least 5 unrelated subjects he forced in - , all of that is really irritating . I could understand if you said "Islam is wrong in saying that the people of the books corrupted them" though . Even here , we're presenting the Islamic prespective , and he's forcing his prespective ! But when someone asks , we answer while following the orders in this sign :
Ok! then I think Islam is wrong saying the people of the book corrupted their scriptures.. I find the verses from the Quran you claim backs up this view you have to ambiguous to be taken as cast iron proof of such a claim. I have asked various members at various times to bring forth the "proof" one member at least claimed to have at his fingertips.. Which was who corrupted the scripture? When was it done? And why was it thought to be necessary to change the word of God? The last point.. Given the promised punishments that would befall any who altered Gods word. No evidence was forth coming. How I don't feel it unreasonable to expect some kind of proof of this sort... If one only has otherwise ambiguity and supposition.
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And to answer your quesiton , no , the prophet peace upon him can't perform miracles of his own . No prophet ever claimed he can perform miracles of his own . It is all by the will of Allah . So whoever gave you this idea was misinformed .
well.. That's a given. Why would you suppose otherwise? Prophets are just men.. They are tools of God. However.. I wonder if prophet Mohammed would acknowledge the miracles attributed to him today by muslims?
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Still , the prophet peace upon him did have miracles and the first and most important is Quran itself which astonished all the experts of literature and everyone failed to rival it . Other ones are mentioned in the narrations .
I have heard it said that the Quran was in fact the only miracle Prophet Mohammed claimed for himself. I'm not sure how it seen as miracle.. But you do so that is fine.
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And how can you understand from the sign that the Christ poured life into that clay HIMSELF ? Now come one ! I even underlined the related parts ! It is all by the will and power of Allah . In Islam , Christ peace upon him didn't do all of those on his own . That's the same with all the other prophets .
Firstly, I cannot accept the "clay birds" can be attributed to Jesus at all. Due to the same reason as the "talking from the cradle".. It has dubious provenance and there is no evidence that it could be attributed to Jesus. Out of the hundreds of miracles Jesus performed during relatively short lifetime, the clay birds has absolutely no sound reasoning behind it, no lesson to be learnt, no benefit to anyone. It seems nothing more than a party trick.. And one thing the miracles of Lord Jesus were NOT.. Were party tricks. It just does not fit.
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Great !! We agree on something !
Originally Posted by نصير الدين
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