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The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.,
The son of God was never a messenger; He was, is and will be the message. He is the truth not someone who shows truth; He is the way not someone who show the way; He is the life period. he warns that many false prophet will come saying Jesus is Christ and deceiver many. Joseph Smith tried to say Jesus is Satan's brother and million follow this lie. Sung Young Moon taught that people are deceived for believing Jesus is Christ. Why would I want to go against Jesus' word to follow heresy?
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But when Jesus felt [persistence in] disbelief from them, he said, "Who are my supporters for [the cause of] Allah ?" The disciples said," We are supporters for Allah . We have believed in Allah and testify that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].,
Muhammad's Quran came several hundreds of years after the Bible which records the testimony of the disciples closer to the time it happened. Why would I want to believe a contradicting account that came hundreds of years later?
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O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.,
Christians know that God is one and Jesus is His word. This is nothing new. The Jews and Christians were saying this before Muhammad was born. There is no evidence that Allah understood the three he is telling Christians not to say. The only thing one can infer from the Quran is that Allah was saying say not three about the son, mother and father, but there is not such trinity and never was that Christians believe in. So who was Allah referring to? Allah asks Jesus: "Did you say take you and your mother for two gods besides me" I count three gods here: son, mother and Allah. Allah said, "They do disbelieve who say Allah is the third of three" Who believed Allah was the third of three? There are no Christians I know of that do such things not even Catholics. Is this a discrepancy in the Quran? Is the Quran just a reaction against its own misconceptions of Christianity that Muslims follow blindly?
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We believe in the words of Christ from the Holy Quran, we do not recognize the Bible,[/QUOTE]I know what you believe, but why should I feel the way you do when the Quran tells me to stand on the revelation I received from the Scripture that came before? It states we Christians can do no other! If the Scripture Allah sent before are corrupted, then, so is the Quran, because Allah states his word is unchangeable and unalterable. If Allah couldn't or wouldn't protect his word that came before, why should I believe He will do it now? This god would be nothing but a deceiver to me. doesn't Allah state he is the best of deceivers? Is man's power to corrupt greater than God's power to preserve his word? Why did Uthman burn your original Qurans. Who gave him the divine mandate to recompile the Quran and put it to writing when Quran means recite not write. Why did Uthman use the help of text instead of memory to recompile it? There is a preponderance of evidence that this is all contrived, IMHO. I believe Jesus word in the Bible is true and I see no reason why you shouldn't either.
Peace be unto you, and may we all come to the knowledge of truth.
PS, BTW, Why don't you let me post directly so I can edit mistakes? Why are my hands being tied on this forum? What are you afraid of?
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