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Quote Originally Posted by M.Khaled View Post
Actually I meant all heresies and false opinions by ECF not just regarding this verse, but actually regarding this verse you may see Tertullian who followed the false Montanus who claimed to be the paraclete:
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/hcc2.v.xii.ii.html
The point is that the Holy Spirit didn't guide your church fathers, then these verses cannot be applied on him because simply the Holy Spirit in your concept doesn't exist since none of its signs are seen among Christians or even non Christians who should be rebuked on their sins, and if the Holy Spirit really rebukes non Christians for their disbelief, then there shall be no need for Christian missionaries as the Holy Spirit already does this job with non Christians.
Salaam M.Khaled, I must be honest with you here.. I am not a theologian but an ordinary Christian.. :) I confess I do not know enough about the early church father to do your questions justice.

I personally believe that the Holy Spirit does indeed guide in matters of faith, and does bring understanding. Seeing as there is no coercion involved it's up to the individual to make what they will of any such guidance. In regards to being rebuked for sins.. Well we will all answer for our sins in due course will we not? I do not see there is a need for "Christian missionaries" except to maybe spread the Gospel which is a duty of Christians as it is also a duty of muslims to do Dawah. However... Spreading the Gospel does not mean that a persons words will change the heart, mind and soul of another.. Those words will fall on deaf ears without the quickening of the soul by God.. Through His Holy Spirit. You may read my words... I would not expect for one minute you will even look at them with any degree of interest.. If you feel that by reading your words I will change my mind and become a Muslim.. Then you attach too much importance to the power of your words. Only the power of the Word of God can change ones heart.

Yet, I see all dialogue that brings understanding on any level especially when it dispels unfounded prejudices is to be a good thing. For many muslims in their efforts of Dawah seek to gain converts to Islam by discrediting the Previous scriptures .. And by doing so.. Or believing they are doing so.. The Quran must then win by default. There are some truly dreadful misunderstandings of biblical scripture to be found on this site and others and I wonder that you can ever convert anyone on such arguments. I feel the need as a Christian to offer explanations when I see these errors... Maybe I should not bother.. lol.. ;) with better reasoning you may have more success in your Dawah. But that does not bother me any.. I am not as arrogant to assume that anything I say can ever be as powerful as Gods Word... Jesus Christ.. :)

peace to you.