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Quote Originally Posted by Burninglight View Post
The Immaculate conception is a Catholic term that means what Islam and Christianity believe as a whole; It means Jesus was virgin born by Mary who wasn't touché by a man.

The Catholics carry it too far and say Mary was a perpetual virgin and Muslims confuse Catholicism for all of Christianity. Like some group Sunni, Shia and Quranist as all the same. There is a difference as you mentioned. Pandora has said it correctly and perfectly "We all believe God is ONE. Jesus is His word and through Jesus and His redeeming work we are saved. That's simplifying things I guess. But that is the core message.. And that's what counts." That is the message but it does you no good unless you receive it by faith. For we are saved by God's grace through faith. This message has never been corrupted and even the Catholics accept it. Anything else is irrelevant to salvation and eternal life or Paradise. "Jesus said, You will die in your sin unless you believe I am He... and No man comes to God except through me" He didn't say through Muhammad or Islam!

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Well, actually the case I see is that it is not that simple, because the Catholics base their beliefs of all these creeds either on the Bible or the traditions, using the traditions as well is a point of conflict. For example when they use statues and images of saints or intercessions, either they are disobeying the second commandment or that they really have some evidence. If they are disbobeying the second commandment then they are actually disobeying Jesus, which means they are real followers of Jesus. If they really have an evidence through the traditions for example, then it's your problem that you are not really following Christian teachings and that you should consider the traditions as they really belong to the disciples of Jesus. Also a third example regarding the Holy Spirit being proceeded from the Father alone as the Eastern Orthodox say citing what the Bible says, or that he proceeds from both the Father and the Son as you and Catholics believe. What I mean is that these differences are not minor ones, because their consequences lead to disobeying Jesus or the scriptures or having a different way from the disciples who are supposed to be the best people who knew and followed Jesus. If the Holy Spirit didn't teach you these issues and guide you to the right way, then he is actually not doing his job. If he actually did teach you and guide you then for sure one of you is not considered a Christian as he blasphemes against the Holy Spirit.
I could have said that Shia and Quranists since they say that there is no God but Allah and Prophet Muhammad is His messenger that it's all done and anything else is minor, which is actually not true, because what they believe actually is against what the Quran says in some positions, so I don't consider these as minor differences.