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عثمان أحمد الشيخ
Dear friend Pandora,
I am so sorry that you will leave. I have enjoyed your discussion.I am so sorry if I perhaps disturbed you some times. I am not a demon, also I am not a saint. I never wanted to attract you to Islam . I am an ignorant poor man who saw a smart friend lady hurrying and was about to be dropped into a big hole full of fire and he wanted to take her away. I am not exaggerating in my words but the matter is more of that. It is Paradise or hellfire. The summit of happiness and Joy or the summit of unhappiness , misery and abandonment . In fact that trinity is a satanic idea that did not satisfy Allah , Jesus or all prophets and messengers.No one or no nation has done that except idolaters befor . Please,trust me, any one believes that God is three persons in one or one God in three persons and died on that faith will not smell paradise. Also any one believes that God (Allah) has a son or Jesus (pbuh) is God or a son of God will cast the same fate . I think I supplied you with verses from the Holy Quran to prove that.Of course , you are free to accept that or deny that.I hope that you search for truth well and to turn to discuss the matter again and thank you again...I hope that Allah (pbth) help you and guide you and me to the straight way with my greetings.
Hello friend, it was not due to you or our dialogue that I needed to take a break. God had other plans for me during Lent that is all.
It appears you see things in simple terms and do not allow yourself question or doubt. That is fine. It is not in your power to save me from hellfire ..that alone is in the remit of God the Father who through the power of His divine love has granted me salvation through The Lord Christ Jesus. You are measuring my eternal fate by your Islamic ideals and as I am not a Muslim they do not apply to me. Do you believe God only grants muslims Paradise? Or would it be fairer to assume that each of us who faithfully worship God as God has shown Himself to our individual understanding would be judged on our own merits and pay the price of sin accordingly? If you really believe that only muslims will gain paradise.. And it would seem from what I have read there are no guarantees and you can never know if your good deeds will ever be enough. This is a great unknown in Islam... So if you think that paradise can only be the preserve of muslims ..what then of all the other created souls who love and worship God according to their own Holy Scriptures?
You our ask me to trade a certainty for an unknown. It does not sound like a good deal to me. Supplying me with verses from the Quran which show an improper understanding of how Christians view God as a triune being is not conclusive proof of anything. Every time I hear the blasphemous reference to God having a "Son" I feel like weeping... how is it possible for the Quran to even infer anything that no Christian has ever believed. Who was the Quran's message sent for?
I know now you mean well in your efforts, but really greater understanding would be possible if you listened to what Christians actually believe and not what Islam thinks we believe. I don't know.. Maybe that is not possible.
Peace to you.
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