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And thus you see another example for the cowardice of Christians . Your problem isn't that you don't know about Butros . Your problem is that you take him as a holy figure which you don't want to discredit at any cost . My question was simple : Did he lie in this video or not ? And you simply shoved it aside thinking we won't see your cowardice .
Yet again , you ignore every important thing in my post and misquote things the same way you do with Islam . Good job working by the advice of Paul :
not only do I not know of Father Butros, I also do not view him as any sort of Holy figure I see no point in attempting to discredit him because you do that job far better than I. I will not give you the answer you seem to need so badly, because I doubt your reasons for wanting an answer, it smacks of the usual Muslim ego trip, so you can bask in the glory of your fellow muslims who will no doubt congratulate you on another hatchet job well done. I will refrain from adding to your arrogance, which is a sin before God. I am not a coward and do not fear you.

That you have the audacity to accuse me of misquoting you and in someway connect this with the quote of Romans 3:7 you wilfully misquote yourself is ironic..don't you think :)

if you see the verse in context you will find that verse in 7 Paul is quoting a hypothetical argument that someone might use in order to justify lying, having quoted this argument he then refutes it. There is no way in which, having read the quotation in context, you could honestly accuse Paul of deception by teaching Christians to tell falsehoods. This may be an honest mistake on your behalf because you do not understand the Bible or even wish to, and so are used to using verses out of context to suit your purpose.



"What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? Much in every way! First of all, they have been entrusted with the very words of God. What if some did not have faith? Will there lack of faith nullify God's faithfulness? Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: 'So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge.'
But if our unrighteousness brings out God's righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? that God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? Someone might argue, 'If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increase his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?' Why not say -- as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as some claim we say -- 'Let us do evil that good may result'? Their condemnation is deserved." (Romans 3:1-8)



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And now , let me get this straight , saying that we share nothing is a crime to you ? Really , I thought that only the Christians of Egypt have this insolence but it seems that it's in everyone like you around the world . And you still didn't answer : Would you love your enemy who's coming to kill you and burn down your city ? Would you REALLY turn your left cheek to the one who slapped you on the right considering that your bible says Jesus didn't work with his own advice ? The idea of "Love for all" is a myth . And I'll slam my head to the wall if 1% of Christians around the world work with it .
Then , you're angry because I called you "Kafirah" ? Read your book and then talk :

No not a crime, how ridiculous. No more than I would ask you to slam your head to the wall..:) but a good deal more than 1% of Christians live by the ideals you so despise, that of turning the left cheek and forgiving those who harm you. I am in effect turning the other cheek at this moment in replying to your post because it will no doubt result in further insults from your good self. :) I may dislike your actions but could never say I dislike you as a person because I know nothing about you. I will also forgive you for the harsh and cruel way you abuse the religions of others because I believe you do so out of ignorance, even though you may believe your motives be pure. My life on earth is only a preparation for what comes after, all my trials and tribulations count for little in the scheme of things. maybe that's why Christians on the whole do not have a problem with the forgiveness thing cos we see Gods judgement at the ends will be just...so I don't need to sweat the small stuff.

you quote from Dueteronomy (Old Testament) to seek to show Christ in the New Testament taught a divisive view of God. He did not, Christ brought a new covenant as Christians it is beholden on us to listen to his words..otherwise we would still be Jews..then of course Dueteronomy would have relevance, as you know much like muslims Jews seek to their own.

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And then and as I said , you're working perfectly with the advice of Paul about lying . How come you failed to quote everything I said ? I said :
nothing to be said on this I feel. Cuts both ways don't you think..:)

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Lastly , I repeat the question which you keep running away from :
i would never dream of expressing an opinion on Hadiths of which I know very little, and as already mentioned see little point in responding any further to a topic where any accommodation for each others views be reached.

Peace and Ramadan Mabrouk to you. may God hear your prayers.