20 Reasons to Abandon Christianity

[pandora]

A closed mind is a dying mind. :)

[pandora]

Well will you just look at the nonsense available on the Internet...shall we go through the points made below? Or shall we agree that it is possible to cut and paste any opinion on any topic under the sun off the Internet. Which at the end of the day counts for nothing...




20 Reasons to Abandon Islam


Islam is based on fear
Islam preys on the innocent
Islam is based on dishonesty
Islam is extremely egocentric
Islam breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality
Islam breeds authoritarianism
Islam is cruel
Islam is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific
Islam has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex
Islam produces sexual misery
Islam has an exceedingly narrow, legalistic view of morality
Islam encourages acceptance of real evils while focusing on imaginary evils
Islam depreciates the natural world
Islam models hierarchical, authoritarian organization
Islam sanctions slavery and rape and wife beating
Islam is misogynistic
Islam is homophobic
The Qu’ran is not a reliable guide to God’s teachings
The Qu’ran is riddled with contradictions, errors, deletions and additions and no original copies exist
Islam borrowed its central myths and ceremonies from other ancient religions

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The differenceisclear,youspeakwithout evidence

All thenonsense thattook himfroma Jewishsite, replyhere
http://www.ebnmaryam.com/vb/f90
Incidentally/DoyouknowwhattheJewssayaboutJesus?

Ifyoubelievethewordsofthe Jewsabout Islam, you haveto believetheirwordsabout Christ andChristianity

[pandora]

As usual you miss the point entirely. I did not say I believe any of the above points any more than I give any credence to the 20 reasons you posted about Christianity. I was trying to show that such websites that you use are not in any way a reliable sources and the claims they make are frankly laughable.

im sure if I could be bothered I could find you evidence that offers proof of Islam's falsehoods. But I am not interested in proving Islam as false because I respect your right to believe what you wish. It's a shame that you do not accord others (non muslims) the same courtesy. Do you ever ask yourself why you spend your time attempting to discredit the Holy Scriptures of other faiths? Would this make your Prophet proud ? I'm guessing it would not, as your Prophet always respected the previous scriptures even though he did not understand them he knew them to be Gods work.

Of course I know what the Jews say about Christ... Christians were Jews before they found Christ. It does not bother me what the Jews say about Christ. Christ is my saviour as a Christian not theirs as Jews. I don't have to believe what they say about anything, but I respect their right to believe it. If the Jews believed in Christ as their messiah they would not be Jews would they... The Holy Bible (old testament) contains the Jewish scriptures which are the foundation of Christianity our roots stem from the same soil. A section of Jewish society of the time chose not to accept and believe that Christ was the promised Messiah, those remain true to the old ways and still await their promised Messiah, the other section of society of the time chose and believed Christ was the promised Messiah and believed his message of salvation was what they had been waiting for as promised by God.. They became followers of the teachings of Christ...Christians.

peace to you.

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IdonotlieabouttheBible, Itell the truththenyouarewasting your timein a replynotobjective

Shortenthe roadthis isthefactthatyourfaith

Search andAskeverything youpublishitand you'll findthetruth

Ineverpausefor publishinglies oftheBibleandthe other faceof Jesus

[pandora]

If you want to know the truth of the Bible, then read the Bible, read it from the first word to the last, not bits here and there. Anything read out of context will not make sense. You cannot prove a thing false by using the opinions of others, and you cannot prove anything false that is true. Of course you can try, and I'm sure you will fool and persuade Muslims of the truth of your claims but for someone who has a great faith in God and his word your efforts would be wasted. Better use them more constructively reach out in friendship instead of being so rude all the time, you may get further.

Peace to you.

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Problem that do not understand and do not want to understand

I wrote here. Why I am not a Christian
http://www.ebnmaryam.com/vb/t195515.html

[pandora]

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Problem that do not understand and do not want to understand

I wrote here. Why I am not a Christian
http://www.ebnmaryam.com/vb/t195515.html

How can that be a comparison between Jesus and Mohammed. You use Old Testament ...the Old Testament was not the teachings of Jesus.

I compared the teachings of Jesus to Mohammed and that is why I am not a Muslim. .. For information, another point of view. I do not particularly like this website, however the comparison chart is clear and easy to understand as far as comparisons go. Of course your copy of the Quran may tell it differently. I find many Muslims suffer the affliction of selective blindness when required.

Christianity and Islam:
A Side by Side Comparison*


* It is not the purpose of this site to promote any particular religion, including Christianity.
However, we do enjoy refuting nonsense, such as the claim that Muhammad
and Jesus preached a morally equivalent message or that all religion is the same.


"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who
disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads
and strike off every fingertip of them."
"Allah" (Qur'an 8:12)


"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and
kill those who disbelieve in Allah."
Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)


"Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself."
Jesus (Matthew 5:14)


Even though many Muslims regard terrorists who kill in the name of Allah as criminals, they cannot deny that Muhammad also killed in the name of Allah. What example of Jesus do Christians emulate which has them confused them with terrorists and criminals?

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How can that be a comparison between Jesus and Mohammed. You use Old Testament ...the Old Testament was not the teachings of Jesus.

Big mistake, Jesus is not God of the Old Testament?Does God change?This calamity


LUKE 19.27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

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"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and
kill those who disbelieve in Allah."
Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)

It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children.

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"Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself."
Jesus (Matthew 5:14)

LUKE 10.3


Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.




Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.


JOHN2.310-11




If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

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Even though many Muslims regard terrorists who kill in the name of Allah as criminals, they cannot deny that Muhammad also killed in the name of Allah. What example of Jesus do Christians emulate which has them confused them with terrorists and criminals?

Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. (8)

[pandora]

Yahweh is God of the Old Testament, Jesus is one in essence with Yahweh, however that does not mean that Jesus is equal with the father, there is only one God.

you edited my link..why? Afraid of comparisons..unless they are your own. Is that a fair way to conduct a dialogue?

Again you misunderstand the scriptures..

But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me (Luke 19: 27).

This passage belongs to the parable of the 'Ten Minas', and does not reveal direct description of an event. Furthermore, despite the fact that the parable includes Christians, e.g. the 'three servants', those executing the judgement appear to be a group distinguished from these and are referred to as ‘those standing by’.


Finally, the parable does not refer to a Christian event, but a futurist, imminent and divine judgement; the closest analogy is Luke 9: 26:


‘If anyone is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels’.


Both Mark and Matthew relate to this event as a time of future judgement:


The Son of Man will send out His angels and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of sins (Matthew 13: 41-42)


As in Luke 19 these angels executing the judgement are distinguished from the actual servants (Jesus followers), about which Matthew records Jesus saying the following~


‘Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear’ (Matthew 13: 43)


You are confusing Christianity on earth, in the era of Christ with future and divine judgement, executed by divine coming and angelic intervention. Where will you stand on the day of divine judgement?

what you have when you use verses out of context is a hotchpotch of random events that make little sense to those with no knowledge of the Holy Bible.