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"The faith in both religions is almost identical, the cornerstone of faith in both religions is the absolute oneness of God"

Judaism and Islam are not the only 2 religions believing in the one God that is all good that sends prophets... take Zoroastrianism for instance... would you say that Islam is the international version of Zoroastrianism?


Yes, I would say so
According to islam, we believe that there is one God who sent many prophets, at least a prophet to every nation according to the Holy Quran
The first thing that every prophet said to his nation :There is only one God, so worhip him and don't worship any other gods with him
In the Holy Quran, God told us about the stories of some of the prophets, others we were informed nothing about them
Since Zoroastrianism teaches that there is only one God whose name is Ahura Mazda according to this religion and since Zoroaster taught the people that there is only one God, I think that he may be one of the prophets whom we were informed nothing about
According to islamic belief,every prophet was sent all to his nation except prophet Muhamed Pbuh who is the last prophet and who is sent to whole mankind
This is why I agree that islam is the international version of Zoroastrianism and any other religion teaching that there is only one God

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"Christians believe in trinity"
actually, Catholics believe in the Holy Trinity, and they are not considered Christians by all other denominations (Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans etc.)
What would you say of Jehovah's witness for instance



Surely most of the christians believe in trinity
Although Jehovah's witness don't believe in the trinity ,they still believe that Jesus is the son of God
According to islam and Judaism , God has no son in the sense that Jesus is the son of God according to christian faith even the faith of Jehova's witness
So still their faith is different from Judaism and Islam

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"But Judaism has been a religion only for the jews, the jews didn't think that their religion is a religion for all mankind, till now there are only about 12 million jews world wide"
actually, Jews believe God created all humanity and we are all descendants of Noah. God commanded Noah's sons with only 7 commandments; therefore any human observing these 7 commandments will go to heaven. Jews, however, were set apart from the rest of mankind because God wanted to prove his power through preserving the smallest, most powerless nation of those days, throughout history. all the great empires have fallen but the ancient jews survived. had you told the great Assyrians of the Acadians etc. that the jews will survive to the 20th century while all empires will disappear- it would have been as if you would have told them that water will turn into blood. It's a miracle because it is so inpossible and it is reason God chose the jews: "The LORD did not set His love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people but for ye were the fewest of all peoples"

Deuteronomy 7:7


Jews cannot convert others into their own religion and are not commanded to, so their chances of survival are even smaller.
Well , can you tell me what are these 7 commandments
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Anyway if according to your belief, people from other religions will go to heaven if they do these 7 commandments, so I as a muslim may go to heaven even if my religion is wrong and your religion is true
Meanwhile, according to my religion you will be in great trouble and you will never be to heaven if you don't believe in islam
This means that you have to be very careful when taking the decision of not believing in Islam, because if your decision is wrong you will be in great trouble
If you are taking the long survival of the jews as an evidence to prove that your religion is true, both christians and muslims can do the same
A christian can say that the Romans who used to kill the early christians would never have imagined that after 2000 years there will be about 2 billion christians all over the world
As a muslim, I can say that the unbelievers from Quraysh, the tribe of prophet Muhamed Pbuh, would never have imagined that after 1400 years muslims will become 1.5 billion all over the world
So I think that what you are saying about the long survival of Jews can't possibly be evidence that judaism is true and that you should not believe in Islam
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On the other hand it makes Judaism very
peaceful- all holy wars in the world were conducted by Catholics or Muslims, trying to convert the whole world into their religion, murdering, imprisoning, torturing others, but Judaism continued to exist through it all without forcing one man to convert to Judaism.

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I think you are kidding
Don't you know anything about the battles of Moses, Joshua and David
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Here is the battle plan according to judaism
Let's read from Deutromony 20

10 When thou drawest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that are found therein shall become tributary unto thee, and shall serve thee.
12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
13 and when Jehovah thy God delivereth it into thy hand, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
14 but the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take for a prey unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which Jehovah thy God hath given thee.
15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.
16 But of the cities of these peoples, that Jehovah thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth;
17 but thou shalt utterly destroy them: the Hittite, and the Amorite, the Canaanite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite; as Jehovah thy God hath commanded thee;
18 that they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so would ye sin against
Jehovah your God.

You can find a comparision between the rules of battle in Isalm and Judaism at this link
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http://norasensation.wordpress.com/2...dren%E2%80%9D/


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So my question is,why shouldn't a jewish person believe in Islam?"

Because then they will not be jews any more. They will be Muslims. If that were to happen Jews will be extinct and God will be made a liar who canot prove his existence through preserving his people through history.
So if prophet Muhamed Pbuh is a true messenger from God, you are not allowed to believe in him and you must believe that he is a liar and if the Quran is really from God you must believe that it's man made, so that Jews survive
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Or probably God can never send prophets except to the Jews so that he preserve his people through history
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Anyway according to islam, the jews were one day the peopple of God, but they disobeyed him , they worshipped other Gods, they did many mistakes, they even killed or tried to kill some of God's prophets like prophet Jesus Pbuh, so God punished them by not considering them his people anymore and by sending prophet Muhamed, the final prophet sent to whole mankind, from the arabs not the jews and now the jews are no more the people of God, they were replaced by muslims
I think you must be joking

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"Why should a jewish man believe that Moses, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Hezzekiel are prophets from God but he shouldn't believe in Jesus and Muhamed Pbuh as prophets sent by God"

God gave signs to distinguish between a true prophet and a false one. He said he will send false prophets to test us, and that they will perform miracles etc. but they will persuade us to believe in a different religion and that is how we shoud know they are false: "If there arise in the midst of thee a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams--and he give thee a sign or a wonder,and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spoke unto thee--saying: 'Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them';thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or unto that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God putteth you to proof, to know whether ye do love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul."


Deduteronomy 13:2-4


According to what you quoted from the bible,prophet Muhamed is surely a true prophet because prophet Muhamed Pbuh taught us to worship one God ,the God of Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus
The Holy Quran even states that our God (our refers to muslims) and your God(your refers to jews and christians) is the same God
Let's read from the Holy Quran
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And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender. S. 29:46 Pickthall

So Prophet Muhamed Pbuh never said : let's go after other gods, but he taught us to worship your God, the God of Abraham and Moses

Another evidence from your scriptures that we can use to prove that prophet Muhamed Pbuh is really a messenger of God is in Deutromony 18
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21 And if thou say in thy heart, How shall we know the word which Jehovah hath not spoken?
22 when a prophet speaketh in the name of Jehovah, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which Jehovah hath not spoken: the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously, thou shalt not be afraid of him.

So we can simply see whether the prophecies of prophet Muhamed Pbuh really happened or not
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If they have really happened, you must believe that he is a true prophet according to your scriptures

Would you like us to have a look at some of the prophecies of prophet Muhamed Pbuh to see whether he is a true prophet or not
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