TO EVERY CHRISTIAN:WHY JESUS BUT NOT...-10

[bahiraomar]

Salam brothers,

After reading I still find no answer to my question
WHY JESUS? All the miracles he was given were given to others AND YOU DON'T WHORSHIP THESE OTHERS
WHY DID YOU CHOOSE JESUS- Brothers, Jesus made miracles by the power of God, i.e. by His OWN power because He is GOD! He is Allah! According to the Holy Bible and al; Quran, Jesus is Kalimat-Ullah. He is the Word of God. The Scripture said that in the beginning was the Word and the word was with God and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God and by Him was made everything. Let’s read it:

John 1
The Eternal Word
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it…..14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Here we can see that the Holy Scripture said that Jesus was the Word of God and God Himself!

THERE MUST BE CONSIDERABLE REASONS- That’s why be worshiping Jesus we worship God/Allah. Those who reject Jesus are unbelievers and they reject Allah! That’s why the way of such people will perish.

ABOUT WHAT YOU WROTE EXCUSE ME:YOUR THEORY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. YOU SAID THAT GOD DIED FOR PEOPLE.COULD'T GOD FORGIVE PEOPLE JUST LIKE THAT.- God Jesus is the Creator of the universe and all visible and invisible worlds. He is EQUAL to His Father. He came to earth and was incarnated into the human body to REVEAL us who is His Father and to die on the cross for the human kind. Jesus was tortured and insulted because of His claims to be the King of Israel. So, this King by His divine power accepted the sin of the world to REDEEM the SMALL REMNANT- those who want to be saved! Not all people will be saved by God, but those who will believe in Him- Jesus and will live a godly life! Millions of nominal Christians will be in hell. But only those people who are born by God/born again as Jesus said will enter the Kingdom of Heaven THROUGH FAITH, REPENTANCE of all sins and confession of sins in a salat.

YOUR THEORY TELLS US THAT GOD HAD TO DIE TO SET PEOPLE FREE FROM SINS AND NOT TO BE PUNISHED.- Yes, Jesus was punished instead of us on the cross. That’s why even today we are the sons of God and adopted by Him. We are not slaves anymore but His family. God imputed Jesus’ righteousness to every believer in Him. It is like if you would be given a million dollar amount to pay for your debt and invest the rest of money into the Kingdom of God on earth…by living the righteous life. Why Jesus was punished instead of us? Because His Father said that punishment for sin is DEATH. So, to accomplish the justice of God we all should die for our sins. We all are sinners and Jesus made us free of our sins/debt. It was the love of God when mercy and justice have kissed each other. Read about it below.

BUT I TELL YOU THAT HE COULD JUST FORGIVE PEOPLE. – Yes, He could and Jesus forgave people! But if He took the sin of the world then He should be killed because of God’s Justice! God cannt disown Himself. He said that punishment for sin is DEATH. If He would just forget about this law then He would NOT be God! Remember that Justice is one of His features. His nature/essence is LOVE and justice.
YOUR EXAMPLE ABOUT USA CAN'T BE THE SAME ABOUT GOD. – Nature of Jesus was and is divine! Even Quran said that Jesus is HOLY. Note: that 3 times Quran mentioned that Muhammad was a sinner!
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A KING IN HIS OWN KINGDOM- Right Jesus was called the Lord of lords and King of kings.
A KING WHO DOES WHATEVER HE LIKES. – Yes, Jesus died WILLINGLY instead of you and me and millions of Arabs and Muslims! His LOVE is for YOU FREE. Come to Him and share His Kingdom. You will be his Inheritance. Everything will be given to you!
FORGIVES WHO HE WANTS AND PUNISHES WHO HE WANTS.- Yes, Jesus’ Judgment is RIGHTEOUS says the Scripture! And He judges people according to the words said by Him and written in His Laws! He is coming back to earth to JUDGE people and nations. Be ready. The day of Your Judgment is approaching. But He is going to justify you BEFORE this Judgment by being judged instead of you. Just accept this justification/forgiveness through FAITH in Him and Repentance!
IF YOU LOOK AT ANY KINGDOM ON EARTH YOU WILL FIND THE SAME. THE KING IS THE RULER, THE JUDGE AND THE PUNISHER.- Right.

AT LAST I'M WAITING FOR YOUR CONSIDERABLE REASONS TO WHORSHIP JESUS- Brother, stay always in contact please. Here is about righteousness of God as I promised:

This much we know about “Justice” and “Mercy”: They oppose each other. I think it can be properly said, “When Justice walks in by way of the front door, Mercy flies out the window; and when Mercy walks in by way of the front door Justice flies out the window.” The two cannot meet; and the two cannot co-exist. Like two opposing enemies “Mercy” and “Justice” will continue to avoid each other, or push against each other. It is the natural order (flow) of things — where Justice is displayed, Mercy fades away; and where Mercy is displayed, Justice fades away. But then there is God who lives outside the “natural order of things”. He not only governs the “Law of Nature”, but it is His Laws which nature must obey.
There is only one time in all the ages when “Mercy” and “Justice” met at a single point, and neither one faded away. It was a remarkable display of Wisdom on the part of God when His Justice and His Mercy rushed at a single point and kissed each other. Such a thing has never been done before, nor will it ever happen again.
God says this about Himself in the ancient Book of Malachi 3 “For I am the Lord, I change not…” This means since God is a “God of Love”, He cannot change in any way, shape, or form in His love. It also means God is fixed (un-changeable) in His love — He cannot increase in His love; and He cannot decrease in His love. To either increase or to decrease in His love is to change the condition of God. (“For I am the Lord, I change not…”)
God is also a “God of Compassion”. Again God cannot change in His compassion. The level of compassion which God had from the beginning of the ages cannot increase or decrease with time. In fact God has a “Nature” within Himself that compares (forces) Him to remain unchanged and consistent in all His Attributes. God is a “God of Mercy”. His “Un-changeable Nature” cannot allow Him to increase in His Mercy or to decrease in His Mercy. The “Mercy of God” is just what it is for all times — the “Mercy of God”. To increase or to decrease in “His Mercy” is to create a change in God which goes against the “Very Nature of God”: “For I am the Lord, I change not…”
God is, and has always been exactly who He is. God cannot change. The God of the ages past is exactly the same as He is today and He will be in the ages to come. Any change in God’s Attributes is to denote a different god who was not like the God of the ages past.
Malachi 3:6 perhaps describes God better than any other verse in Holy Scriptures: “For I am the Lord, I change not…” There is no other god known to man who has consistently spoken about his “un-changeability” as the Biblical God. The reason is because there is no other god like the Biblical God who is fixed (permanent) within His Nature (condition). He cannot change for the better, or for the worst. Whatever He was, He is today, and will always be.
Now that raises a problem: “Since Justice and Mercy cannot meet and co-exist, how does God deal with the sins of man in His Mercy and still remains un-changed in His Justice?”
Friends, I can tell you that this is not an easy task. It is a God-size task. If God forgives man of his sins simply because God wants to display His Mercy, it means God must first lower His Standard of Justice at the expense of His Mercy. This will bring about a change in God, because He now regards His Mercy far more important than He regards His Justice. This cannot happen because in order for God to remain “un-changed”, He must uphold His Mercy as equally as He upholds His Justice. Neither one (His Mercy or His Justice) must suffer at the expense of the other.
This brings us to a God-size question: Since Justice and Mercy oppose each other, and cannot meet at a single point, how then does God display His Mercy toward man while simultaneously (at the same time) equally upholding His Justice against man for his sins?
2000 years ago this question was answered at “The Cross” — the gruesome (bloody) Cross of Calvary. It is there upon which God displayed His Justice (rage, anger, fury) against the sins of man while at the very same time demonstrating His Mercy toward mankind. It is at the Cross where both Justice and Mercy met for the first and only time, and neither one opposed the other. This is remarkable — this has never happened before, and it will never happen again.
At “The Cross” while upholding His Very Own Characters: “For I am the Lord, I change not…”God bend the “Arch of Mercy” and the “Arch of Justice” made them to meet at a single point in order to save mankind. No human being can accomplish such a monumental feet; and certainly no other god known to man has the Wisdom and the Power to display his mercy as equally as while expounding his justice. All other gods will have to switch between roles by displaying mercy and justice at different time period, but never displaying both simultaneously. Only the Biblical God can make such a God-size task possible. We can therefore say, “There is no god, but God.”
This is not something new to God. He spoke about it 12 centuries before it happened. Psalm 85:10 reads, “Mercy and truth (Justice) are met; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.” At “The Cross”, and for this one purpose, God changed the natural order of things so that Mercy and Justice not only met without conflict, but righteousness and peace also kissed each other. And in all this God remains true to His word: “For I am the Lord, I change not…”
For those of you who are looking forward for God to change in His Justice or to lower His Justice at the expense of His Mercy in order to save you, I give you Malachi 3 “For I am the Lord, I change not…” I also give you John 1:12: “For as many as received Him (Christ Jesus) to them He gives the power to become sons of God, even to them that believe in His name.” (by Sazie Johnson)

[bahiraomar]

[QUOTE=bahiraomar;494001]Salam brothers,

After reading I still find no answer to my questionWHY JESUS?[/QUOTE
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Salam akhi! Why do we worship Ibn Allah who is equal to Babba Allah? Because He is Allah who is Kalimat-Ullah int he Bible and Qur'an. He is the Word of God who created all stars and planets and all visible and invisibe worlds. Let me tell you about His mercy and justicy today:

This much we know about “Justice” and “Mercy”: They oppose each other. I think it can be properly said, “When Justice walks in by way of the front door, Mercy flies out the window; and when Mercy walks in by way of the front door Justice flies out the window.” The two cannot meet; and the two cannot co-exist. Like two opposing enemies “Mercy” and “Justice” will continue to avoid each other, or push against each other. It is the natural order (flow) of things — where Justice is displayed, Mercy fades away; and where Mercy is displayed, Justice fades away. But then there is God who lives outside the “natural order of things”. He not only governs the “Law of Nature”, but it is His Laws which nature must obey.

There is only one time in all the ages when “Mercy” and “Justice” met at a single point, and neither one faded away. It was a remarkable display of Wisdom on the part of God when His Justice and His Mercy rushed at a single point and kissed each other. Such a thing has never been done before, nor will it ever happen again.

God says this about Himself in the ancient Book of Malachi 3 “For I am the Lord, I change not…” This means since God is a “God of Love”, He cannot change in any way, shape, or form in His love. It also means God is fixed (un-changeable) in His love — He cannot increase in His love; and He cannot decrease in His love. To either increase or to decrease in His love is to change the condition of God. (“For I am the Lord, I change not…”)

God is also a “God of Compassion”. Again God cannot change in His compassion. The level of compassion which God had from the beginning of the ages cannot increase or decrease with time. In fact God has a “Nature” within Himself that compares (forces) Him to remain unchanged and consistent in all His Attributes. God is a “God of Mercy”. His “Un-changeable Nature” cannot allow Him to increase in His Mercy or to decrease in His Mercy. The “Mercy of God” is just what it is for all times — the “Mercy of God”. To increase or to decrease in “His Mercy” is to create a change in God which goes against the “Very Nature of God”: “For I am the Lord, I change not…”

God is, and has always been exactly who He is. God cannot change. The God of the ages past is exactly the same as He is today and He will be in the ages to come. Any change in God’s Attributes is to denote a different god who was not like the God of the ages past.

Malachi 3:6 perhaps describes God better than any other verse in Holy Scriptures: “For I am the Lord, I change not…” There is no other god known to man who has consistently spoken about his “un-changeability” as the Biblical God. The reason is because there is no other god like the Biblical God who is fixed (permanent) within His Nature (condition). He cannot change for the better, or for the worst. Whatever He was, He is today, and will always be.

Now that raises a problem: “Since Justice and Mercy cannot meet and co-exist, how does God deal with the sins of man in His Mercy and still remains un-changed in His Justice?”

Friends, I can tell you that this is not an easy task. It is a God-size task. If God forgives man of his sins simply because God wants to display His Mercy, it means God must first lower His Standard of Justice at the expense of His Mercy. This will bring about a change in God, because He now regards His Mercy far more important than He regards His Justice. This cannot happen because in order for God to remain “un-changed”, He must uphold His Mercy as equally as He upholds His Justice. Neither one (His Mercy or His Justice) must suffer at the expense of the other.

This brings us to a God-size question: Since Justice and Mercy oppose each other, and cannot meet at a single point, how then does God display His Mercy toward man while simultaneously (at the same time) equally upholding His Justice against man for his sins?

2000 years ago this question was answered at “The Cross” — the gruesome (bloody) Cross of Calvary. It is there upon which God displayed His Justice (rage, anger, fury) against the sins of man while at the very same time demonstrating His Mercy toward mankind. It is at the Cross where both Justice and Mercy met for the first and only time, and neither one opposed the other. This is remarkable — this has never happened before, and it will never happen again.

At “The Cross” while upholding His Very Own Characters: “For I am the Lord, I change not…”God bend the “Arch of Mercy” and the “Arch of Justice” made them to meet at a single point in order to save mankind. No human being can accomplish such a monumental feet; and certainly no other god known to man has the Wisdom and the Power to display his mercy as equally as while expounding his justice. All other gods will have to switch between roles by displaying mercy and justice at different time period, but never displaying both simultaneously. Only the Biblical God can make such a God-size task possible. We can therefore say, “There is no god, but God.”

This is not something new to God. He spoke about it 12 centuries before it happened. Psalm 85:10 reads, “Mercy and truth (Justice) are met; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.” At “The Cross”, and for this one purpose, God changed the natural order of things so that Mercy and Justice not only met without conflict, but righteousness and peace also kissed each other. And in all this God remains true to His word: “For I am the Lord, I change not…”

For those of you who are looking forward for God to change in His Justice or to lower His Justice at the expense of His Mercy in order to save you, I give you Malachi 3 “For I am the Lord, I change not…” I also give you John 1:12: “For as many as received Him (Christ Jesus) to them He gives the power to become sons of God, even to them that believe in His name.”

[bahiraomar]

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

Brothers,

we all Christians and Muslims await the Second Coming of Jesus.
For Christians He is God. Muslims do not believe in His divine nature.
Some of Indians believe in cow and they do not expect any coming of this cow.
But WHAT will happen when Jesus will return?


Please listen to my conversation with a Muslim (Muddy):


Muddy said:


A few religious coworkers of mine believe in may 2011 to be end of world according to their scriptures. But I tried to tell them it cant happen because Christ will have to come back and live with us...


Right. Jesus will come during the war initiated by the anti-christ and 10 countries confederated under him (among them will be also Muslim countries). God Jesus will come back to the earth created by Him to live here and judge us too. He is going to rule over His planet for 1,000 years. Definitely He will transform our world....our earth will be like a planet ruled over by 'Aliens'.... But all people (unbelievers too) will observe His reign and some of them will reject to believe in Him. After 1,000 years of God Jesus' reign, unbelievers will gather together again led and inspired by the satan/devil but for the final war...they will surround Jerusalem again to attack Jesus and His saints. What will happen? Let's read about it in Revelation 20:7-15:


Satanic Rebellion Crushed

Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

The Great White Throne Judgment


Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God,and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.


But what will be with earth? It will be destroyed probably during this final war:

All Things Made New


Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away."
Then He who sat on the throne said, "Behold, I make all things new." And He said to me, "Write, for these words are true and faithful."
And He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

Summary: People will witness the perfect reign of God Jesus for 1,000 years. But however some of them will refuse to believe in Him. He will stop wars and production of arms but they will still desire to destroy His Kingdom. He will not kill them but they will desire to kill Him like before. He will not attack them, but they will gather together again for a war against Him. There will be no weapon in Jerusalem to protect Jesus, His angels and saints. How He- Jesus- is going to defend Himself? He is God. The Almighty, Omnipresent and Omniscient God who created people and all visible and invisible worlds. Will He dwell among us if people do not want to see His presence? He will show them who He is and how righteously He reigns. He was described by the prophets in the Holy Bible and by reading His Holy words said there, we are able to look into His eyes even today. But even by looking at God, people would like to live without God!

How He is going to exist with those who do not want to exist with Him? He is going to take those, who want to dwell with Him, to a NEW WORLD created by Him….So, it will be a final and great escape to another world soon….Will you be among us? Or do you prefer to be left on our planet which will be destroyed?