مساعدة فى الرد على شبه باللغة الاتجليزية

[ابو علي الفلسطيني]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

حياك الله اخي الفاضل وجزاك الله خيرا

مع ان هذه الشبهات غير مفصلة بنقاط واضحة اقصد انها اكثر من شبهة في نفس

الوقت ولكن ان شاء الله تعالى ساحاول انا والاخوة هنا الرد عليها ان شاء الله تعالى

يتبع الرد ان شاء الله تعالى قريبا

[ابو علي الفلسطيني]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

اخي الحبيب ،

لو تحدد الامر بنقاط معينة يكون الرد عليها فهذا اسهل

لان يبدو ان لك كلاما مختلط مع كلام الذي ارسل الرسالة

فلو توضح اكثر وجزاك الله تعالى خيرا

[ابوعبدالملك السلفى]

الاخ الحبيب ابو على الفلسطينى جزاك الله خيرا على اهتمامك وجعله الله فى موازين حسناتك بالنسبة للرساله انا ليس لى فيها كلام خاص و رده هذا كان على نصوص العنف التى اقتبستها من الانجيل المحرف وارسلتها له ردا عليه بأن ما يحدث اليوم ليس له علاقة بالانجيل الحقيقى و كان قصدى ان اثبت له ان ما يحدث اليوم هو نتيجة طبيعية لنصوص الانجيل المحرف و لم اكتب اى زيادة على النصوص المقتبسه و ما قام به هو فى هذه الرساله هو انه قام بوضع النص المقتبس المرسل له و قام بالتعليق عليه و اما كل تعليق كتب اسمه Jaakko
و فى انتظار ردكم الكريم حيث اننى لم افهم رده و ليس عندى العلم الكافى للرد على تعليقه

[ابو علي الفلسطيني]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

ان الحمد لله نحمده ونستعينه ونستغفره ونتوب اليه ونعوذ بالله من شرور انفسنا وسيئات اعمالنا من يهده الله فلا مضل له ومن يضلل فلا هادي له، واشهد ان لا اله الا الله وان سيدنا محمد عبده ورسوله صلوات ربي وسلامه عليه وعلى آله واصحابه اجمعين وبعد،
حياك الله اخي الحبيب

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First some words for Bible. There is two totally different kind of books bound between the same covers: New Testament and Old Testament.
• New Testament consists of the known teaches of Jesus and some other writings, too. Teachings of Jesus are throughout humane (real Christianity). Jesus himself lived as he taught

We must know something that the bible was written after the death of jesus and those who wrote the bible never saw jesus or heared from him so this is the reason why the bible contains so many faults and mistakes because it is not God's words.
we must also know that some people in the church were adding and omitting what they like in the bible to justify the bad things they are doing.
We qoute from the bible then to show the weakness of it and the wrong facts it contain.

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Old Testament consists of some writings of Judaism, not even the best of those. Many of the writings are allegoric describing the inner “fighting” of human beings. Anyhow, the writings are very violence, rough, vicious… The God in the Old Testament is not the same God that is in the New Testament. The God of the Old Testament is morally below the middle level of human beings. His act and his words and instructions authenticate this. I think it is better to use name Devil for the “God” of the Old Testament.

If that is true why the christians believe in the Old Testemant??
notice that the old testemant never say that jesus the son of god and the jews are worshiping one god.
sice you accept to believe in the old testemant then you must recognise what it is saying.

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51 Do you think that I came here to give peace to the earth? (A) No, I tell you, but rather division!
[Jaakko Kesävuori] These two sentences are allegorical. The word “division” is better than the word “sword”. What happened during the first Christian centuries. Thousands and thousands, even millions people were killed (murdered) due to their religion. If you try to be humanity or if you are humanity, surrounding community arises against you and your humanity. This same happened to Mohammad, too. Jesus cautioned by these sentences his followers what may happen. Cautions regrettably came true – many heads were broken up by sword. Many men and women were perpetrated to martyr

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These words that jesus had said were not a warning or a caution never. they were priciples and doctrins ser in the bible. notice that the crossaders wars and most of todays wars are inspired by these teaching.
there is no comparison between the circomstances of prophet Mohammad peace be upon him and the time of jesus cause in Islam we are allowed to fight only if our life is in danger to defend ourselves but in christianity there is no reason for all the massackers and the bloodshids that were made by the name of jesus

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Yes, back to their original authentic teachings. This is OK. But we do not clearly know the original teachings of Jesus. Original writings are not found. From year 1 to year 325 the “Christianity” has “developed” fully contrary to the original Christianity. (First “christian” war was then, headed by the Emperor Constantia the Great.) Historically is known that the Christian was persecuted due to their human, non-violence princi

at this points you admitt that your bible is corrupted and i agree with this. notice something that jesus disciples were not excuted because of their loving teaches. any how at the time of Constantin a new type of christianity is being made. jesus never tells his disciples that he is a god or a son of god and there were no trinity in then suddenley jesus became a god and the trinity became one of your religion faith how did this happen? this shows that jesus teaching were changed and the christianity today is following a religion that has been made by humans

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As I earlier wrote, I have understood that Islam deeply is very human. Your words here for the love has affirmed my understanding. Anyhow, I cannot accept violence and war at all. Jesus has clearly said: Do not be against devil and love you enemies. Being real Christian I have to follow-up teachings of Jesus Christ.

the christianity always talks about love but actually their works are the opposites. how cn you justify then the wars that had been made by the name of jesus. all of us hate wars but the fact is something different about christianity

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