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    قبل ان اعرض لكم الايميل الذي طلبت منه الا يتجاهل الرد عليه
    احب ان اعرض لكم الايميل الاصلي الذي ناقشت فيه بعض تناقضات الانجيل وساعرض لكم رده حتي تستطيعوا فهم الايميل المقصود الذي اعادت ارساله له الان وطلبت منه الا يتجاهل مناقشته





    اليكم الايميل الاول:

    Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:30 PM
    From: "hn forever" <hn_forever@yahoo.com>Add sender to ContactsTo: "romckri" <romckri@gmail.com>Hi, Rod
    now i`m to introduce to you the 1 st part of my proofs that Bible in your hands had been corrupted.
    i`ll write it to you , and wait you clear , specific reply on it , then i`ll proceed introducing more proofs.

    let`s begin;
    if Bible in ur hands is the true word of God without being corrupted, so it must be free of any mistakes and of any contradictions.

    first proof:
    (who ordered David to number Israel and Juda????)
    2nd Samuel 24:1

    And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

    1st Chronicles 21:1

    And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.



    in the 1 st verse it told that Lord was who ordered David to number them , while the 2 nd verse told that satan was who ordered them ,



    2nd:

    what was number of Israel and Jude ?

    2nd Samuel 24:9

    And Joab gave up the sum of the number of the people unto the king: and there were in Israel eight hundred thousand valiant men that drew the sword; and the men of Judah were five hundred thousand men.

    1st Chronicles 21:5-6

    And Joab gave the sum of the number of the people unto David. And all they of Israel were a thousand thousand and an hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah was four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword.

    But Levi and Benjamin counted he not among them: for the king's word was abominable to Joab



    3rd:


    (Did Michal have cildren or not?)

    * 2nd Samuel 6:23

    Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death

    *2nd Samuel 21:8

    But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:



    4th:

    2nd Chronicles 9:25

    And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.



    1st Kings 4:26

    And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

    5 th:

    Genesis 1:29

    And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.



    according to this verse , any plant can be eaten....but this is aganist scientific facts, coz it`s well known that there are poisionous types of plants.

    so if this verse is the word of God , didn`t God know that there are plants harmful can`t be eaten???!!!!!!!



    6th:

    Jeremiah 51:64

    And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.

    please note the red words in this verse...according to it , Jeremiah didn`t write the next chapter , jermiah 52.....so who wrote it????????



    7 th:

    who killed Saul?

    1st Samuel 31:4-6

    Then said Saul unto his armourbearer, Draw thy sword, and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come and thrust me through, and abuse me. But his armourbearer would not; for he was sore afraid. Therefore Saul took a sword, and fell upon it.



    And when his armourbearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise upon his sword, and died with him.



    So Saul died, and his three sons, and his armourbearer, and all his men, that same day together.





    2nd Samuel 1:9-10

    He said unto me again, Stand, I pray thee, upon me, and slay me: for anguish is come upon me, because my life is yet whole in me.



    So I stood upon him, and slew him, because I was sure that he could not live after that he was fallen: and I took the crown that was upon his head, and the bracelet that was on his arm, and have brought them hither unto my lord.





    i`m waiting your clear direct specific replies on my points..... if something you don`t have answer , you can ask me for time to search for it , it`s ok



    with my best wishes, nashwa
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    السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
    أختى فى الله,
    جزاك الله خيرا على دفاعك عن الاسلام و على مناظرة هذا الشخص حتى يرى الحق, وشكرا لك على إتاحة الفرصة لنا لمشاركتك فى هذا الثواب:
    بداية أحب ان أذكرك أن السبب لمثل هذه النقاشات هو دعوة الناس للهداية لدين الحق سبحانه و تعالى, دون أى رغبة شخصية فى تحقيق إنتصار أو أى شىء اخر, و أنه من يهتدى فلنفسه و من يتولى فإن الله غنى حميد, فإذا شعرتى أنه لا جدوى من محاورة هذا الشخص توقفى فورا و لا تضيعى وقتك معه فهو فى الغالب أحد المنصرين.
    أما بالنسبة للإيميلات بينك و بينه فإليك من هذه التعليقات لعلها تفيدك فى مناقشته و لعل الله ينفعه بها:
    You began your email by saying we can’t use the Bible to criticize the Quran when it is the Bible and the Bible alone that proves beyond any doubt whatsoever that the Quran cannot possibly be from the same God found in the Bible!
    Before telling us that, he has to tell you which Bible is he indicating?
    The bible that contains 73 books or the one who contains 66 books, ask him if the book of Daniel that he reeds contains 12 or 14 chapters. Ask him which bible and which books from these books are God’s words, and why you should believe him (as I think he is Protestant) neither the Catholic nor the Orthodox
    Before telling us that, he has to tell you which Bible is he indicating?
    The bible that contains 73 books or the one who contains 66 books, ask him if the book of Daniel that he reeds contains 12 or 14 chapters. Ask him which bible and which books from these books are God’s words, and why you should believe him (as I think he is Protestant) neither the Catholic nor the Orthodox

    your logic, wisdom and reasoning tells you otherwise, so using those tools cannot get to the bottom of the situation alone.
    Here he is trying to escape from the logical inconsistency of the bible and this is probably his week point and he is trying to turn you away from it. So don’t be deluded. You can find a lot of documentation on the internet regarding the bible contradictions that can help you.
    which is telling the truth historically consistently.
    Did Jesus die on the cross as described in the Bible or not? What does the Shroud of Turin tell us for example,
    The Shroud of Turin can’t be a prove or a disprove for the crucifixion of Jesus in any way, because even if we prove that this shroud is date in the first century we are still not sure that it belongs to Jesus, and if we prove otherwise also it can’t be a clear disprove, but let us investigate the credibility of this shroud,
    First a carbon dating test was done by three different research centers (University of Oxford - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology- University of Arizona) and they gave three independent results, and all the three dated it between the 13th and 14th century.
    Second examining the biblical description for the shroud of Jesus we find that it was in strips not in one (14x4 feet) piece of cloth.

    John: Taking Jesus' body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices, in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs.
    About Jinns, in the Quran Jinns means Devils as you told him, but I’ld like to aيd to you this Quranic reference as you can find in Sura Kahf 50:
    “” We said to the angels; "Prostrate to Adam." So they prostrated except Iblis (Satan). He was one of the jinns; he disobeyed the Command of his Lord””.


    أحب أن اضيف إليك أنه بالرغم من أن موضوع نقاشق معه هو مصداقية الكتاب المدعو مقدس فهو يحاول أن يشتتك ببعض التفاهات التى لا ترتقى لمستوى فكر الأطفال عن القران, و فى نفس الوقت يرفض أى دليل تأتى به كدليل على تحريف كتابه, و لهذا عليك أن تسأليه عن الدليل الذى يثبت لديه أن كتابا ما و ليكن القران هو ليس كتاب سماوى حتى نستطسع أن ندينه من فمه و نستخدم حجته عليه. مع العلم أنه قال أن القران يستخدم الخرافات الفلكلورية ككلمة الجن فماذا عن مطابقة المسيحية للبذية فة الخلاص و الفداء و المخلص و الصلب و تطابق قصة مخلصهم يسوع المصلوب مع قصة كرشنا و مع الديانات الفرعونية, فى المخلص و أبن الله و الصلب و حتى الافخارستيا هل يقبل بهذا كدليل؟
    و الان إليك شهادات علماء المسيحية عن تحريف الكتاب المدعو المقدس:
    هذا كتاب شهادات علماء المسيحية (أقوال علماء المسيحية فى كتبة أسفارهم)
    http://www.eld3wah.net/books/mase7ey...t_el3olama.rar
    Ask him is this verse written by God:

    "It seemed good to me (Luke) also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, (Luke 1:3)"
    Ask him who wrote the first verse and who wrote the second one:
    1-Genesis 17:13 “13He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant”
    2-Galatians 5 “Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.”

    [Here Paul is saying:” I paul not, God say or, the Holy spirit say, or i say inspired by the Holy spirit, But a clear I say, and he said what? he changed the covenant of God.” While God said:
    Judges 2:1 “and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.”
    Deuteronomy 7:9 “Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations”

    Another thing is the use of the third person instead of the first:
    Deuteronomy 34:5-10 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.
    6And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.
    7And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.
    8And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended.
    9And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as the LORD commanded Moses.
    10And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,

    Is this the Torah that prophet Moses received in the 40 days, does Moses describes his death and what happened after his death, and why should Moses say: “Moses was” “e buried him” “the Lord commanded Moses”.
    Matthew 9:9 “And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him”.
    Why should Mathew say “he saw a man, named Matthew” and “and he saith unto him”. The writer I both verses must be an outsider narrator.
    Another thing is these strange salutes of Paul that are posted inside the Bible as the word of God:

    Romans 16
    3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus
    6 Greet Mary, who bestowed much labour on us.
    8 Greet Amplias my beloved in the Lord.
    9 Salute Urbane, our helper in Christ, and Stachys my beloved.
    10 Salute Apelles approved in Christ. Salute them which are of Aristobulus' household.
    11 Salute Herodion my kinsman. Greet them that be of the household of Narcissus, which are in the Lord.
    12 Salute Tryphena and Tryphosa, who labour in the Lord. Salute the beloved Persis, which laboured much in the Lord.
    13 Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine.
    14 Salute Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermas, Patrobas, Hermes, and the brethren which are with them.
    15 Salute Philologus, and Julia, Nereus, and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints which are with them.
    16 Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you.
    21 Timotheus my workfellow, and Lucius, and Jason, and Sosipater, my kinsmen, salute you.
    22I Tertius, who wrote this epistle, salute you in the Lord.
    A First Question and you must insist on it, are those Salutes words of God?
    Second what divine significance do these salutes and greetings mean?
    What is the importance or the lessons beyond these greetings?
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    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
    لقد قرأت الموضوع قرائة سريعة, قبل الذهاب فى العمل.
    و أكثر ما لفت نظرى, هو شىء كنت قد كتبته لك من قبل. و هو أن هذا الشخص من أقباط المهجر. فمن المستحيل أن تيكون هذا هو المستوى اللغوى لشخص أمريكى, و تكوين الجمل كان قريب من اللغة العربية.
    و لكن لا يهم فالدعوة للجميع.
    و أحب ان اوضح أن الدعوة لمثل هذا الشخص تكون أصعب بكثير,ليس لسبب غير, أنه يعيش فى مجتمع الاسلاموفوبيا و يسمع عن مجتمع الاضطهاد للأقباط.
    و لكن مرحبا به هنا فى مجتمعنا ما دام يقرأ فى المنتدى.
    فلماذا أخى الكريم لا تأتى للحوار هنا؟
    نحن نقول لك أنك على باطل فأهلا بك لتثبت لنا أنك على حق.
    سوف أقوم بالرد عليكى بعد عودتى فى العمل إن شاء الله, و سوف نثبت له إن شاء الله بأدلة دامغة أنه على باطل.
    و لكن لى نقطة أحب أن أستوضحها نته فمن الواضح أنه عندما قال My country كانت زلة كى بورد, فلماذا لم يخبرك من الاول بهذه الحقيقة, ثم ها هو يتهمك بأنك كنتى غير أمينة معه!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    موفقه بإذن الله ... لكى مني أجمل تحية .
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    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته.
    إذا قرأتى فى هذه الرسالة أى شىء محرج فاعلمى أته من الكتاب المقدس, و لكن لابد من معايرة هذا الحيوان الذى سب الله بكتابه حتى يعلم أنه على الباطل.
    Dear sister,
    I don’t like to go on speaking in the matter he opened about Copts in Egypt. Because this is not our point we are here speaking about the Christian faith.
    Can he defend his faith or not?

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    And the comment about sex in heaven!!! It’s just too much to believe! Today the only person that provided sex to men they have a name for that person and he is called a Pimp do you realize that!!! Has God become a PIMP
    I think this is a red line that he passed in he must stop and apologize for this if he want to continue this conversation.
    But I will give him quotes about the Heavens from the bible to tell his comments about his God:
    [Matthew 26:29, I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it a new with you in my Father's kingdom]
    Can I now say that your God a bar Man!!! That will offer wine to the people in the heaven.
    By the way do you know who the people of the heaven are?
    [Luke 22:30, so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel]
    Here are the quotes, can you tell us what kind of God say this words:
    [Ezekiel 23:19-21, yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled]
    [Ezekiel 16:35-36, therefore, you prostitute, hear the word of the LORD! 36This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because you poured out your wealth and exposed your nakedness in your promiscuity with your lovers]
    [Song of Solomon 7:1-9]

    How beautiful your sandaled feet,
    O prince's daughter!
    Your graceful legs are like jewels,
    the work of a craftsman's hands.
    2 Your navel is a rounded goblet
    that never lacks blended wine.
    Your waist is a mound of wheat
    encircled by lilies.
    3 Your breasts are like two fawns,
    twins of a gazelle.
    4 Your neck is like an ivory tower.
    Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon
    by the gate of Bath Rabbim.
    Your nose is like the tower of Lebanon
    looking toward Damascus.
    5 Your head crowns you like Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is like royal tapestry;
    the king is held captive by its tresses.
    6 How beautiful you are and how pleasing,
    O love, with your delights!
    7 Your stature is like that of the palm,
    and your breasts like clusters of fruit.
    8 I said, "I will climb the palm tree;
    I will take hold of its fruit."
    May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine,
    the fragrance of your breath like apples,
    9 and your mouth like the best wine.
    [Proverbs 5:19, A loving doe, a graceful deer may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be captivated by her love]
    [Song of Solomon 8:8, we have a young sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do for our sister for the day she is spoken for?]
    [Judges 21:20-21, So they instructed the Benjamites, saying, "Go and hide in the vineyards 21 and watch. When the girls of Shiloh come out to join in the dancing, then rush from the vineyards and each of you seize a wife from the girls of Shiloh and go to the land of Benjamin.]
    This is enough for now but there is much more that you can find among your living God’s Words.
    Can you read these verses to your young sister if you have one, would you read these verses to your daughter if you will have one?

    Don’t speak in what you have no idea about, can you tell us what is heaven in the Bible, can you tell us what you want to find in paradise?

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    the bank robber you can rob banks in heaven too so keep up the good work. And what does the women get are they sex crazed too, it does not seem so, from what I read your god does not have much in store for the women seem he forgot about them or they don’t count, your god seems to have no place for women they are tools only to be used and thrown away by wicked men here today and in heaven
    I expected this claim from you, because I know that you never read the holy Quran,
    But I will give you quotations from the Quran to show you that you are speaking of what you have no idea about, and that you just keep showing ignorance:
    Sura 4:57: But those who attain to faith and do righteous deeds We shall bring into gardens through which running waters flow, therein to abide beyond the count of time; there shall they have spouses pure: and [thus] We shall bring them unto happiness abounding.
    You can read pure spouses not wives.
    This is the heaven:
    Sura 76:5: [whereas,] behold, the truly virtuous shall drink from a cup flavoured with the calyx of sweet-smelling flowers. 76:8 and who give food - however great be their own want of it - unto the needy, and the orphan, and the captive, 76:9 [saying, in their hearts,] "We feed you for the sake of God alone: we desire no recompense from you, nor thanks: 76:10 behold, we stand in awe of our Sustainer's judgment on a distressful, fateful Day!" 76:11 And so, God will preserve them from the woes of that Day, and will bestow on them brightness and joy, 76:12 and will reward them for all their patience in adversity with a garden [of bliss] and with [garments of] silk. 76:13 In that [garden] they will on couches recline, and will know therein neither [burning] sun nor cold severe, 76:14 since its [blissful] shades will come down low over them, and low will hang down its clusters of fruit, most easy to reach. 76:15 And they will be waited upon with vessels of silver and goblets that will [seem to] be crystal 76:16 crystal-like, [but] of silver - the measure whereof they alone will determine. 76:17 And in that [paradise] they will be given to drink of a cup flavoured with ginger, 76:18 [derived from] a source [to be found] therein, whose name is "Seek Thy Way". 76:19 And immortal youths will wait upon them: when thou seest them, thou wouldst deem them to be scattered pearls; 76:20 and when thou seest [anything that is] there thou wilt see [only] bliss and a realm transcendent 76:21 Upon those [blest] will be garments of green silk and brocade; and they will be adorned with bracelets of silver. And their Sustainer will them to drink of a drink most pure. 76:22 [And they will be told:] "Verily, all this is your reward since Your endeavour [in life] has met [God's] goodly acceptance!"
    This is the Heaven described in the Quran a heaven that you don’t have in your Bible,
    This heaven is For who?
    33:35 VERILY, for all men and women who have sur rendered themselves unto God, and all believing men and believing women, and all truly devout men and truly devout women, and all men and women who are true to their word, and all men and women who are patient in adversity, and all men and women who humble themselves [before God], and all men and women who give in charity, and all self-denying men and self-denying women, and all men and women who are mindful of their chastity, and all men and women who remember God unceasingly: for [all of] them has God readied forgiveness of sins and a mighty reward.

    I think that you don’t have to say anymore about this.


    يتبع.
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    You LOST your right to quote the Bible my friend because you said you reject it
    We reject it yes, but not as what you think, and that is another prove of your ignorance about the Islam that you insulted, we reject it’s integrity, it’s sanity from corruption, but we believe in it, we believe that this book contains Godly words and people words, we believe that some Godly words were modified others were cancelled. But regardless what we believe of the Bible, I’m sure that you believe in it, and that’s enough for me to quote you from it. Or you want me to quote from Harry potter for example. And you don’t have the right to give me orders or to tell me do and don’t do, so I will quote from anything that I see supporting my views.

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    DO NOT QUOTE THE BIBLE
    you must reject it all as we do the Quran or accept it all
    And you don’t have the right to tell me what to believe, what to accept and what to reject this is completely my decision not yours.
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    at the Muslims devilish cunning ways at the Muslims devilish cunning ways
    Just Thanks for your Christian behavior, you just acted perfectly and showed full respect to your speaker and to his religion, this exactly what you learned from your Jesus your god, who you used to do so:
    [Matthew 23:17, you blind fools!]
    [Matthew 16:23, Get behind me, Satan!]
    [Luke 24:25, How foolish you are]
    [Mathew 15:26, It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs]

    يتبع
    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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    Now let’s go forward to his reply,
    Who wrote The Bible?
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    The Bible is God’s letter to humanity collected into 66 books written by 40 divinely inspired writers.
    Actually the word bible doesn’t exists, the correct word is bibles, and let me tell you why,
    You said the bible is 66 books written by 40 divinely inspired writers, ok.
    But your fellow Christians (Orthodox - Catholics) says that the bible does contain 73 books.
    In the bible that you read in you will find the Book of Daniel containing 12 Chapters, But your fellow Christians says that it contains 14.
    Would you tell me, Daniel 13 is the Word of God or not?
    Even if speak a common book between all Christians, would you tell me which version of the bible you mean to be word of God?
    KJV that contains, Mathew 12:47 or RSV that doesn’t contain it. Is this Verse word of God or not? Why some bibles excluded it?
    In your bible do you find Mathew 21:17, if you are reading in NIV or NASV or RSV or NRSV or NSV you will not find it, but if you read NKJV or LIV you will find it at the margin. Why all these bibles removed this verse is it God’s word or not?
    I’ve a full list of such verses that passes hundreds of words and complete verses removed from the Word of God “as you believe”.
    You said 40 writers, as it is a fact, ok
    Would you tell us who wrote the book Acts of Apostles? but try to be sure from your answer.
    Would you tell us who wrote the Gospel of Mathew?
    Would you tell us who wrote the Torah?

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    In 2 Peter 1:20-21, Peter reminds the reader to “know this first of all, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, … but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God
    Ok, let’s show you how Peter himself disproves this fact:
    [Galatians 5:2 I, Paul, tell you]
    And from Luke
    [Luke 1:3, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you]

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    Moses, trained in Pharaoh's courts with all the education available to a prince, penned the first five books of the Old Testament
    Did Moses Wrote those verses:
    [Deuteronomy 34:5-6, And Moses the servant of the LORD died there in Moab, as the LORD had said. 6 He buried him [a] in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is].
    I think it’s now clear that the bible that we have nowadays is not related in any way to the original bible and that’s what we believe in. and I invite you first to believe in this before moving on speaking about Islam, and please if you want to speak about Islam just tell me what the Holy Quran or the Prophet PBUh say, not What any other Man do or say.

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    الانبياء: بَلْ نَقْذِفُ بِالْحَقِّ عَلَى الْبَاطِلِ فَيَدْمَغُهُ فَإِذَا هُوَ زَاهِقٌ وَلَكُمُ الْوَيْلُ مِمَّا تَصِفُونَ (18) وَلَهُ مَنْ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَمَنْ عِنْدَهُ لَا يَسْتَكْبِرُونَ عَنْ عِبَادَتِهِ وَلَا يَسْتَحْسِرُونَ (19) يُسَبِّحُونَ اللَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ لَا يَفْتُرُونَ (20) أَمِ اتَّخَذُوا آَلِهَةً مِنَ الْأَرْضِ هُمْ يُنْشِرُونَ (21) لَوْ كَانَ فِيهِمَا آَلِهَةٌ إِلَّا اللَّهُ لَفَسَدَتَا فَسُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَرْشِ عَمَّا يَصِفُونَ (22) لَا يُسْأَلُ عَمَّا يَفْعَلُ وَهُمْ يُسْأَلُونَ (23) أَمِ اتَّخَذُوا مِنْ دُونِهِ آَلِهَةً قُلْ هَاتُوا بُرْهَانَكُمْ هَذَا ذِكْرُ مَنْ مَعِيَ وَذِكْرُ مَنْ قَبْلِي بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ الْحَقَّ فَهُمْ مُعْرِضُونَ (24)

    ٍSura The Prophets:
    Nay, We hurl the Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us).
    To Him belong all (creatures) in the heavens and on earth: Even those who are in His (very) Presence are not too proud to serve Him, nor are they (ever) weary (of His service):
    They celebrate His praises night and day, nor do they ever flag or intermit.
    Or have they taken (for worship) gods from the earth who can raise (the dead)?
    Or have they taken (for worship) gods from the earth who can raise (the dead)?
    If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! but glory to Allah, the Lord of the Throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!
    If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! but glory to Allah, the Lord of the Throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!
    Or have they taken for worship (other) gods besides him? Say, "Bring your convincing proof: this is the Message of those with me and the Message of those before me." But most of them know not the Truth, and so turn away.

    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    بارك الله فيك اخي الحبيب مسلم عن حق ........

    كفيتَ ووفيتَ وشفيتَ واشتفيت .............

    زادك الله تعالى من علمه وجعل عملنا وعملك ابتغاء مرضاته وفي سبيله سبحانه ....

    والحمد لله ان هذا التافه يقرأ كلامنا ويطلع عليه .........

    فاما ان يعرف الحق واما ان يزيده هذا كرها الى كرهه وحقدا على حقده ........

    سلمت يمينك .........
    سَلامٌ مِنْ صَبا بَرَدى أَرَقُّ ....ودمعٌ لا يُكَفْكَفُ يا دمشقُ

    ومَعْذِرَةَ اليراعةِ والقوافي .... جلاءُ الرِّزءِ عَنْ وَصْفٍ يُدَّقُ

    وذكرى عن خواطرِها لقلبي .... إليكِ تلفّتٌ أَبداً وخَفْقُ

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