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Quote Originally Posted by Burninglight View Post
What specific questions? Seeing the kingdom of God is not a metaphor. It is not about feelings.

How does it impact the central gospel message? Yes, God is talking to Israel, but Jesus is the culmination of all that happens to Israel for he was sent to them!People wrote things as they saw them and understood them. It is not God speaking via dictation through and angle like in the Quran. The most important part was that Jesus died for our sin (not Jesus' last words before death that doesn't change the central gospel message)

As for you hospital example of 12 people attending a man's death in a hospital and the man shouts a certain thing before he dies so that everybody hears it, and you seriously doubting that they would all differ at that point, is a good point, but perhaps if sixty or seventy years had gone by after they share their testimony or it is documented, you might not doubt it so seriously then.

peace to you

First : you said that seeing the kingdom of god as you say does not mean feelings , then what is it if it is not knowledge since you say you do not have answers yet !!!!!

Second: the passage never said anything about culmination it is your personal interpritation of the text which the context of the text does not support
What are you talking about righteousness !!!!! this has nothing to do with what Jesus said nor does it give a viable answer !!!!
The text say that Jesus's last words was asking god why he left him!!! then he shouted and died !!!! any person who can read will simply deduct this as the person not wanting to die and feels like he failed !!!!

Third No the last words of Jesus are important as his concept of dying for others , especially that his last words would reflect his beliefs. The last words for every human being is important, no body would in their right mind say giberish for their last words rather they would say what they felt

Fourth : If the twelve men wrote what happened years later and because that they started to forget then that my friend proves that :
1. Most of what they wrote are unreliable
2. They were not guided by God because forgetting things related to God's scripture before documenting it means that God did not support their writing nor were they guided by the holy ghost when writting

Note: I will not respond to topics not related to what we are discussing , so I will quote what we are discussing only. These crafty tactics of yours will not work