Which makes more sense Islam or Christianity

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    you start off correctly enough, One God exists in three persons and one substance... Though I would have said essence rather than substance.

    Pandora,I am using your scholars definitions to trinity not my own definition to what trinity means. For you, I think you like to pick and choose what you like in your religion, I am not discussing your choice, I am discussing the difference according what your scholars say.


    The definition I used “One God exists in three persons and one substance” according to The Nicene Faith: Formation Of Christian Theology by John Behr (Jun 30, 2004) ISBN 088141266X pages 3-4.

    Now what is an essence? What are they Gods with different flavours?

    However, you are in error when you say we believe they are equal. As they are not equal in authority, as all authority is with the Father.. GOD. Neither the Son.. (Gods Word - Jesus) or the Spirit work independently of the Father.

    So they are three Gods, one bigger than the other, so do not tell us you worship one God, you worship three gods with different roles.

    Again when I said equal, it is not from my head, it is what the doctrine is based on, not sure you know which religion you are following but the trinity claim that they are equal Gods, there is even a poem for it “We worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity;
    Neither confounding the persons nor dividing the substance.
    For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit.
    But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty co-eternal.
    Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit.” Life in the Trinity: (An Introduction to Theology with the Help of the Church Fathers by Donald Fairbairn (Sep 28, 2009) ISBN 0830838732 pages 48-50)

    why Jesus also said He (Jesus) will send the Spirit (Paraclete) to guide the disciples after His ascension.

    After his ascension? So if it is holy spirit cannot work unless Jesus peace be upon him depart. “Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you” John 16:7-14 " the spirit like brother Mohammed mentioned it means a prophet.

    this is your problem, you believe that because the trinity is not mentioned in the Bible then it was simply made up. You won't find any verse that mentions three gods in one because that's NOT what the trinity doctrine stands for. The trinity is NOT biblical teaching and you will not find any verses saying it is, it's a term arrived at, after great study of the scriptures over hundreds of years in an effort to explain the nature of God as told by God Himself through His prophets. The word Tawheed is not to be found in the Quran .

    Nice one Pandora, I am not looking merely for the word trinity, I am talking about the doctrine itself, and you know it. Lol Tawheed not mentioned that is funny, tawheed means believing in the ONENESS of Allah.

    How many times is it mentioned in the Quran that Allah is One and Only?? The concept of worshiping one God is very explicit in the Quran. Ask a two year old mulsim who do you worship, and he will be able to explain it to you. In contrast, ask a Christian adult to explain to you the trinity they will not be able to.

    So how fair is it that God almighty link our salvation to something nobody in the world can understand, and nobody can get that concept from the book, unless you twist words, and pick and choose what you like. The message of salvation has to be crystal clear, because God is fair.

    but would you deny the concept of Gods oneness is found within its pages? In fact, muslims cannot satisfactorily explain the concept of "oneness" .. A thread exists here where a past member issued a challenge to muslims to explain exactly that, it remains unanswered.

    Seriously?? Show me the tread, what is there to explain? God is one, no sons, no daughters, just one. He does not get born, or breast fed, or carried in the womb for 9 months !!

    “The One and Only .He begets not, nor is He begotten.
    And there is none like unto Him." [Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]

    there is no verse with Jesus saying "worship me".. However, there are many instances where He accepted worship and did not rebuke those who worshipped Him. Just because Jesus did not say the direct words.. "I am divine" does not mean he did not imply such indirectly and by His actions. As for Jesus not saying He was one of three gods... Well, that quite frankly is offensive! All His teaching was to show us the ONE true God.. There has only ever been ONE God in Christianity..
    Jesus always prayed to the Father and taught us to do the same. So your inferences aren't applicable.


    Again more reasons why Christianity does not make sense. Lets summarise

    · Nothing about the triune god/s in the bible explicitly, just vague verse which mean this or that
    · Jesus peace upon him never said worship me in the bible
    · The father is not equal to Jesus even though Christians been saying otherwise
    · So Jesus been a prophet make more sense which is the concept of my thread
    · None of the messengers before Jesus peace upon him prophesied about his birth, death and resurrection in the bible even though he is the saviour son of God.

    The story of Islam is continuation of the same message but in Christianity today they claim that God sent messengers saying the God is one, then changed his mind, and made them 3 or 3 in one, and the evidence?? None

    From this is clear that Christianity does not make any sense to any unbiased person.

    Last edited by huria; 05-08-2014 at 06:39 PM.

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