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here i'do not mean - exceptionally - the Ten Commandments .
here i'm talking about God 's Commandments - orders in general -
you really should make it clear in your posts.. Otherwise it looks like you're changing the goal posts if you don't like the answer. What on earth does that mean.. "Orders in general" God gave us the commandments which encompassed every aspect of life.. What other orders were there? The ones from men??? Beside the point.. Jesus was sinless.. End of.

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No i ' m not saying that the holy Qura'n is in error .the holy Qura'n does not say that Jesus was the Lord and the savior .
Jesus in the holy Qura'n is just a prophet and a good man .
the holy Qura'n does not mention anything bad about Jesus .
Jews treated him as a bastard - also the Gospels -
the Jews - the Talmud - considered him as a son of a Roman archer called Pandera .
in the holy Qura'n Jesus and his mother Mary were acquitted of this false accusation .


And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander
well.. It rather looks like you are. The Quran says ~ "I am only a messenger of thy Lord that I may bestow on thee a faultless son" (Surah 19.19)... Faultless son? From that and others the consensus of opinion is the Quran agrees with the Bible that Jesus was sinless. As for the straw man you introduced into the rest of your reply... It's of no interest.. Seeing as I don't over much care what some of the Jews of the time had to say about Jesus or indeed what prophet Mohammed had to say 600 years later. As if Mary ever needed acquitting of any false accusations against her when she had God Himself on her side! When in fact in reality you besmirch the name of her Son.. Jesus.

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~*** people of Scripture are not the same :***~
the term " ~ ***people of Scripture " means jews and christians !***~
make your mind up!!! Are we the same or are we Jews and Christians ..i:e... Different.

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And indeed, there is among them a party who alter the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, "This is from Allah ," but it is not from Allah . And they speak untruth about Allah while they know.

the holy Qura'n 3 : 78
are you still harping on about this!! Key words to note.. A party ~ meaning not all. Alter scripture with their tongues ~ spoken word. Not from scripture ~ they made up their own interpretation. Say it's from Allah ~ passing their false interpretations as genuine. Meaning seems clear to me. Can we draw a line and move on from this now?

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the holy Qura'n teach us : you must not trust all liars - in general - !


They only invent falsehood who do not believe in the verses of Allah , and it is those who are the liars.
does it tell you how to recognise them? Or do you have to figure that out for yourselves? That would explain why many muslims seem not to trust anyone who is not a Muslim. Which is rather sad. :(

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For each one cast down his rod, and they became dragons; but Aaron’s rod swallowed up their rods.
Personally I think dragons are just a quackery and a pure imagination .
whatever.. Snake .. Serpent.. Dragon.. Matter of interpretation non of which make any difference to the core message.

I will continue with further replies in another post.. The posts are getting rather long..points may get missed.


Peace.