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I didn't say women are strangers to hardships . In fact , one of the first martyrs in Islam was a woman named Sumayyah bint (daughter of) Al-Khayyat along with her husband Yasir may Allah be pleased of them . Still , I don't think we need scientific research and the such to admit a given that males are physically stronger . Faith is important , but Islam isn't just about faith , but work as well . For that , Muslims worked and tried to fulfil the reasons of victory and success in peace and war . It's honestly the first time I know that there are women as prophets in the Bible . Then again , each have their teachings and beliefs .



Here is some information on women prophets in the Bible..if you wish to read about them, maybe after Ramadan. I don't know why no woman prophet ever got a mention in the Quran.

http://stronginfaith.org/article.php?page=90


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Fair enough . You could start a thread later - And I think the forum is closed during Ramadan - to discuss and compare if you

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Maybe, perhaps you could look up Joseph Smith and why 5 million people believe in his prophethood.

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Honesty is a condition of a real prophet , but it's not the only one , there are many others . I'm just saying that honesty is indeed a charecteristic of the prophet peace upon him . And logically , it is impossible for a person to live 40 years pretending to be someone he is not without slips here and there . His people knew him and he was among them his whole life . They even entrusted him with their belongins AFTER the revelation which they fought against ! Not to mention that when he left to Madinah (Enlightened city) , he left his cousin Ali may Allah be pleased of him to return them to their owners ! The point is that no one can deny the fact that the prophet peace upon him was truthful and honest . No person can pull such an act his whole life which we have recorded .
I don't think I implied the Prophet Mohammed was not honest in his dealings with people. I don't see this honesty is evidence that the revelation he received was what he believed it to be. It's possible for a person to be honestly convinced of something that may not be true.

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I'm seripusly beginning to get lost here . And since I didn't mention mathematical probabilities or such a thing , I'll drop it . As for scientific evidence , there are either ones unknown to anyone at the time , or ones known to some who the prophet could have never known of . And IF he was able to reach their records which are in far lands in different languages without someone noticing him , how could he ONLY take the right and leave the wrong ? Anyway , you could later make a thread for this as well .
lol... I think you mentioned the Da Vinci Code.. I certainly would not have done so. :) I personally don't attach any importance in these so called scientific miracles. My faith does not rely on them. However.. If the slightest possibility exists that something in the realms of science was known to mankind before it was recorded in the Quran.. Then it can't in all honesty be considered miraculous.

May God bless and guide you.