QuoteOriginally Posted by MrsClaus92
After reading all what you wrote below I find that you just find evidence that Prophet Muhammad Pbuh may have been mentally or spiritually unstable because you want to see such evidence but in fact there is no evidence at all
Actually how could you claim that a man who has been able to change the religion of a whole nation within 23 years and change them from pagans to people who worship only one God, how could you claim that such a man was mentally unstable
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If an intelligent man is told that some person managed to convince many people, numbering in the billions, of a specific idea, and that they followed him in that, or that a man on his own was able to succeed in the elections – for example – or to convince the people to vote for him, this intelligent man would attest that this person was brilliant and intelligent and wise. So how about out Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – may my father and mother be sacrificed for him – whom the Arabs and non-Arabs followed, whose message of Islam spread everywhere and whose message with which God sent him has remained strong until our own times, facts which are attested by everyone?
This story is considered by muslims as one of the miracles of our beloved prophet PbuhQuoteevidence that Muhammad was imbalanced goes all the way back to his childhood. His parents died when he was young, so he was brought up by his grandfather and his uncle. Muhammad had a nurse who took care of him prior to his mother’s death. This nurse told about this strange event that occurred during Muhammad’s childhood:Some months after our return [Muhammad] and his brother were with our lambs behind the tents when his brother came running and said to us, "Two men clothed in white have seized that Qurayshi brother of mine and thrown him down and opened up his belly, and are stirring it up." We ran towards him and found him standing up with a livid face. We took hold of him and asked him what was the matter. He said, "Two men in white raiment came and threw me down and opened up my belly and searched therein for I know not what." So we took him back to our tent.His father said to me, "I am afraid that this child has had a stroke, so take him back to his family before the result appears." So we picked him up and took him to his mother who asked why we had brought him when I had been anxious for his welfare and desirous of keeping him with me. I said to her, "God has let my son live so far and I have done my duty. I am afraid that ill will befall him, so I have brought him back to you as you wished." She asked me what happened and gave me no peace until I told her. When she asked if I feared a demon possessed him, I replied that I did." (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah (The Life of Muhammad), A. Guillaume, tr. (New York: Oxford University Press, 1980), p. 71-72)
According to islamic belief, these 2 men were angels and opening the chest of the Prophet and taking something from it has a spiritual meaning as the thing taken is understood as a symbol of
the evil part of the human personality
Many muslims believe that this was a sort of devine preparation of
Prophet Muhammad for his mission as God's messenger
As a non-muslim , I understand that you won't believe this but surely it's not logic to ignore the whole life of Prophet Muhammad Pbuh and his influence on whole mankind and consider this story as evidence of him being mentally unstable
Moreover this story is considered dobtful by some muslim scholars
Again you are just trying to find any evidence to prove that Prophet Muhammad was mentally unstableQuoteMuhammad’s nurse wasn’t the only one to fear demonic possession on the part of Muhammad; the Prophet himself came to the exact same conclusion when he began receiving revelations from Gabriel. A full account of Muhammad’s first encounter with Gabriel is given in the Sirat Rasul Allah:When it was the night on which God honored him with his mission and showed mercy on His servants thereby, Gabriel brought him the command of God. "He came to me," said the apostle of God, "while I was asleep, with a coverlet of brocade whereon was some writing, and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it so tightly that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it again so that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it the third time so that I thought it was death and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What then shall I read?’—and this I said only to deliver myself from him, lest he should do the same to me again. He said:‘Read in the name of thy Lord who created,
Who created man of blood coagulated.
Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent,
Who taught by the pen,
Taught that which they knew not unto men.’So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart."So far so good, except for the violent manner in which Gabriel brought the message to Muhammad. But Muhammad’s interpretation of the event is quite revealing. His first impression of his encounter was that he had been possessed; as a result, Muhammad quickly became suicidal:Now none of God’s creatures was more hateful to me than an (ecstatic) poet or a man possessed: I could not even look at them. I thought, Woe is me poet or possessed—Never shall Quraysh say this of me! I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and gain rest.Muhammad tried to throw himself off a cliff, but he was stopped by Gabriel. He later became suicidal again when no additional revelations came.Now tell me that this is not the behavior of a mad man, belonging in a nut house: "he was sitting on a chair in between the sky and the earth. I was so frightened by him that I fell on the ground and came to my family and said (to them), Cover me! (with a blanket), cover me!" (Sahih Al-Bukhari , Number 3238.).
Regarding the first story of Gabriel coming for the first time to the Prophet and telling him (Read
I don't know exactly how did you understand that Prophet Muhammad Pbuh thought he was possessed by demons
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Yes, the Prophet felt afraid but this
is normal
Imagine someone sitting in a cave on top of a mountain alone and then he suddenly finds a man telling him : Read and hugging him
firmly
and doing the samething for 3 times
What do you think a normal response will be
?
Regarding the story of Prophet Muhammad Pbuh trying to commit a suicide, it's not a true story because it's from the (Maraseel) of a muslim scholar known as Alzohary
Maraseel is a name given to the narrations in which a narrator narrates a certain event without witnessing it and without mentioning who informed him about it
Muslim scholars consider that Alzohary's maraseel are extremely doubtful so the story of the Prophet Pbuh trying to commit a suicide is extremely doubtful
Let's read the whole story from Sahih Albukhari
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Saheeh Bukhari
Volumn 009, Book 087, Hadith Number 111.
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Narated By 'Aisha : The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous... up to... that which he knew not." (96.15)
Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and then he said, "O Khadija, what is wrong with me?" Then he told her everything that had happened and said, 'I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija said, 'Never! But have the glad tidings, for by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you as you keep good reactions with your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guest generously and assist the deserving, calamity-afflicted ones." Khadija then accompanied him to (her cousin) Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza bin Qusai. Waraqa was the son of her paternal uncle, i.e., her father's brother, who during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the Arabic writing and used to write of the Gospels in Arabic as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to him, "O my cousin! Listen to the story of your nephew." Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" The Prophet described whatever he had seen.
Waraqa said, "This is the same Namus (i.e., Gabriel, the Angel who keeps the secrets) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they turn me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said: "Never did a man come with something similar to what you have brought but was treated with hostility. If I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Apostle in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before. (Ibn 'Abbas said regarding the meaning of: 'He it is that Cleaves the daybreak (from the darkness)' (6.96) that Al-Asbah. means the light of the sun during the day and the light of the moon at night).
As you see Alzohary said as we have heard without mentioning who he heard from exactly
This is why although the whole Hadith is considered Sahih or true , this part of the Prophet trying to commit a suicide is considered extremely doubtful
Moreover you are just picking from the hadith what you want to find, what about Waraqa Ibn Nawfal who was a christian and considered prophet Muhammad to be a true prophet from the first day exactly as prophet Moses
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If Waraqa who saw Prophet Muhammad Pbuh felt that he was mentally unstable why did he consider him a true prophet
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Again if Prophet Muhammad was a mad man as you are trying to claim, how was he able to work hard for 23 years to change the religion of a whole nation
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How has he been able to be the ruler of the muslims in Almadinah for 11 years
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How was he able to lead the islamic army while he was mad as you claim
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Why did all his wives , daughters , grandsons and friends believe that he was a true prophet and didn't notice that he was mad
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No it's not for sure epilepsy because epilepsy is recurrentQuote
And what is this? Epilepsy? "When the Ka’ba was rebuilt, the Prophet (The blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) and Abbas went to carry stones. Abbas said to the Prophet (The blessing and peace of Allah be upon him): "(Take off and) put your waist sheet over your neck so that the stones may not hurt you." (But as soon as he took off his waist sheet) he fell unconscious on the ground with both his eyes towards the sky. When he came to his senses, he said: "My waist sheet! My waist sheet!" Then he tied his waist sheet (round his waist) (Sahih Al-Bukhari , Number 3829.)
And for sure it was never reported that Prophet Muhammad Pbuh convulsed
As a physician, I bet it was just a vasovagal syncope
which occurs to normal people
QuoteCold sweat??? "Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) sweated in cold weather when revelation descended upon him" (Sahih Muslim, Abdul Hamid Siddiqi, tr., Number 5763.)
High fever??? A’isha reported: When revelation descended upon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) even during the cold days, his forehead perspired.[8]Breath Holding Spells will cause your face to turn blue… it's another sign of Epilepsy: Ubada bin Samit reported that when wahi (inspiration) descended upon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), he felt a burden on that account and the color of his face underwent a change. (Ibid., Number 5766.)
These changes which used to occur to the Prophet Pbuh while he was receiving the revelation prove that the Prophet Pbuh was not a liar
It shows that there was really something strange happening to the Prophet when he said that he was receiving the revelation
Sometimes the people around the Prophet heard a sound like that of bees around the head of the Prophet Pbuh while he was receiving revelation
Is this also epilepsy
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Anyhow, the main symptom of epilepsy is convulsions, have you ever heard that Prophet Muhammad Pbuh convulsed
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Have you heard of an epilepsy patient , reading verses after his epileptic fits and saying that these are verses inspired to him from God
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QuoteThe satanic versus show:QuoteMuhammad’s reception of revelations was influenced by his personal desires;
He received a revelation from Satan;
He proclaimed the revelation as a message from Allah;
He and his followers bowed down in honor of receiving the revelation; and
God’s response was, in effect, "Don’t worry about it Muhammad. All prophets proclaim Satanic messages from time to time."
God’s response to Muhammad was incorporated into the Qur’an:"And We did not send before you any apostle or prophet but when he desired, the Shaitan made a suggestion respecting his desire; but Allah annuls that which the Shaitan casts, then does Allah establish His communications, and Allah is Knowing, Wise."Hence, Satan was capable of influencing both Muhammad and, allegedly, all the prophets before him.
I told you before that the whole story of satanic verses is considered as a fake by muslim scholars so we don't have to repeat what we have said before again
QuoteBut Satan wasn’t the only influence on Muhammad. A Jewish magician named Labid was also able to exercise control over the "Seal of the Prophets."QuoteAisha (may Allah be pleased with her) narrated: "Once the Prophet (the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact, he had not done."Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) narrated: Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle (may the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) so that he used to think that he had had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not. Then one day he said, "O Aisha, do you know that Allah has instructed me concerning the matter I asked Him about? Two men came to me and one of them sat near my head and the other sat near my feet. The one near my head asked the other: ‘What is wrong with this man?’ The latter replied, ‘He is under the effect of magic.’ The first one asked, ‘Who has worked magic on him?’ The other replied, ‘Labid bin Al-Asam, a man from Bani Zuraiq who was an ally of the Jews and was a hypocrite.’ The first one asked, ‘What material did he use?’ The other replied, ‘A comb and the hair stuck to it.’"Ibn Ishaq also reports that "Labid bin A’sam . . . bewitched the apostle of God so that he could not come at his wives." Guillaume adds a note saying that, according to tradition, "the spell lasted for a year."
Again I don't know what's the problem that you find when we say that a jewish magician was able to affect Prophet Muhammad Pbuh
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If this proves anything, it proves that prophet Muhammad Pbuh was a normal man, he was not divine , he was not God or the son of God
Prophet Muhammad Pbuh was just a normal man who could be affected by a magician but the difference between him and us is that God selected him to be his messenger
Surely I don't know what tradition said that this spell lasted for a year and surely Guillaume is not a reliable source for us
And here is the whole story
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[[From Muslim]] @Book 26, Number 5428: A'isha reported that a Jew from among the Jews of Banu Zuraiq who was called Labid b. al-A'sam cast spell upon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) with the result that he (under the influence of the spell) felt that he had been doing something whereas in fact he had not been doing that. (This state of affairs lasted) until one day or during one night Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) made supplication (to dispel its effects). He again made a supplication and he again did this and said to 'A'isha: Do you know that Allah has told me what I had asked Him? There came to me two men and one amongst them sat near my head and the other one near my feet and he who sat near my head said to one who sat near my feet or one who sat near my feet said to one who sat near my head: What is the trouble with the man? He said: The spell has affected him. He said: Who has cast that? He (the other one) said: It was Labid b. A'sam (who has done it). He said: What is the thing by which he transmitted its effect? He said: By the comb and by the hair stuck to the comb and the spathe of the date- palm. He said: Where is tbap He replied: In the well of Dhi Arwan. She said: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent some of the persons from among his Companions there and then said: 'A'isha. by Allah, its water was yellow like henna and its trees were like heads of the devils. She said that she asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as to why he did not burn that. He said: No, Allah has cured me and I do not like that I should induce people to commit any high- handedness in regard (to one another), but I only commanded that it should be buried.
As you see the story shows that the Prophet Muhammad is a true prophet
God listened to his prayers and cured him from the affect of this magic
Also the Prophet Pbuh was able to know after his prayers the site
of the magic and sent his companions there to remove it
But as usual you are just picking what you want and ignoring what you don't want from the same story
QuoteAccording to the earliest and most reliable Muslim writings and traditions, Muhammad’s first impression of his divine encounter was that he had been possessed by demons. This encounter disturbed Muhammad so much that he became suicidal. Further, we have a story in Ibn Ishaq, the earliest biography of Muhammad, maintaining that the childhood nurse of the Prophet also thought that he might be demon-possessed. Some of the details of Muhammad’s encounter seem to support this conclusion. He was sometimes terrified of his revelations, screaming for someone to cover him. He would sweat profusely even in the cold, and his face would change color. Additionally, Muhammad could not distinguish genuine revelations from Satanic revelations, and he was the victim of a debilitating magic spell that probably lasted a year.All what you said in the previous paragraph was answered beforeQuote[LEFT][FONT="]this evidence is entirely sufficient for a rational person to seriously doubt Muhammad’s reliability as a prophet. A man who (admittedly) proclaimed verses from Satan and fell victim to sorcery while declaring himself to be God’s greatest messenger should not be trusted without exceptionally good evidence to support his claim. Since no such evidence for Islam exists, it is justified to question his role as God’s messenger
Yet, of course you have the right not to believe in Prophet Muhammad Pbuh unless there is strong evidence to support that
he was a true prophet
and this is what I'll start doing soon insha Allah
(If God wills)
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