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Moses Joshua and David never fought to coerce people to abandon their gods nor their beliefs. They fought to conquer a land- the legitimate and only way to acquire land until the middle of the 19th century… conquering land is not a religious crusade, it’s a fight for limited resources. Nevertheless the jews never aspired to conquer all the lnd in the world and claim it their empire… even politically speaking it is a peaceful nation. The jewish nation saught only one small state for their nomad tribes to settle down in. Jews respect other nations' rights to a land of their own just as they stand firm in their own right to the same: Deuteronomy 2: God commands the Jews not to try to conquer mount Seir- for it is a land belonging to the children of Esau. Not to try to conquer the Moab desert, because it is a land belonging to the children of Lot and so on. The Jews only fought for a small land for themselves, they keep out of other people's business, land and faith. It is the only live and let live monotheistic religion in the world.
Well Mrs Claus what's clear from the Bible is that the jews were ordered to battle other nations and sometimes even kill their women, their young children and even there cattle. In Islam , killing the women and children is forbidden
The problem is that you are trying to find yourself some excuses to accept the battles of the jews in the Bible and in the same time to prove to yourself that muslims were terrorists
If the battles of the jews were to conquer lands which were not theirs, the islamic battles were not just to conquer lands but were in order to make muslims in a dominant position so that they can let the people know the teachings of Islam and whoever wants to join Islam can join it without being afraid of oppression
The early christians for about 3 centuries were oppressed by the romans, they were even sometimes left to lions to kill them, this is because the early christians were not strong
Similarly , the early muslims in Mecca were oppressed
If muslims tried to spread Islam outside Arabia among the Romans and the Persians without being strong and without armies, what has been done to the early christians for 3 centuries would have been done to them also
Anyone who would have joined Islam among the Romans or the Persians may have been left to lions also
Yet Muslims in their battles, began by asking the enemies to join Islam , if not pay the Jizzya(tax),if not the last option is battle and in case of battle killing women , children and priests is completely forbidden not like the battles in the Bible
And if Muslims win a battle and conquer a land, they never forced people to leave their religion and convert to Islam, if you are a non-muslim you can live safely in the Islamic country if you pay the tax (Jizya) and have your full rights