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A debate about the truth of Isalm converted him to Islam

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    افتراضي His first Thread

    First, here is the picture of the tube






    http://www.youtube.com/user/SuperWor.../0/x-ino4mEh4s



    Second, his thread asking about two things





    Third, my answer to his two questions
    [QUOTE=Authentic
    Man]
    اقتباس
    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة حياة القلوب
    I like your channel. I was kinda against Islam before I found your
    channel. But now I respect Islam.
    Thanks for your new feelings towards Islam.
    But I'd like to ask you what is the best thing you read about Islam
    that changed your mind? ...

    اقتباس
    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة حياة القلوب
    If you can prove me that Jesus is muslim and that Islam is the true
    religion then I will consider converting to Islam.
    I am really proud of you ...
    As it's great to be brave enough to face the reality and that makes you
    reach one of the two choices, either to make sure Christianity is the
    religion that God accepts or It was, but now Islam has become the
    religion God asked us to follow.
    I'd like to draw your attention that we as Muslims love Jesus (peace be
    upon him) so much; in addition our faith can't be complete unless we
    believe that he and all prophets before him were sent by God. Moreover,
    he was considered one of the greatest prophets sent by God...
    We have rules we follow to continue the dialoge
    successfully:

    1- mutual respect to religions and prophets
    2- the evidence of every statement mentioned Let's
    start a mild debate about Islam if it is the true religion of God or
    not and if Juese was Muslim or not ....

    Simply, what's Islam?
    Islam" in Arabic means "Peace"" - Peace with God means the complete
    submission. i.e., loving Him; being afraid of His anger; doing what he
    likes; avoiding what he dislikes, - Peace with yourself, i.e., not to
    harm yourself
    - peace with others, i.e., to be safe in your home, not to harm them or
    to be hurted
    that's why Islam set laws of dealing with others... Islam is not
    submission to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him(PBUH), it's all to God
    ...
    My question now:
    Weren't all prophets - not just the Christ (PBUH) - worshipped God in
    this way?!!!
    Wasn't Jesus (PBUH) peaceable?
    Did he worship anybody but God?
    Did he hurt others?
    This simply the core of Islam ....
    In this sense, was Jesus (PBUH) Muslim or not?!!!

    Now, what about Islam?
    First of all, do not judge Islam according to some Muslims' deeds, but
    judge it as a religion, i.e., watch those Muslims whom you do not like
    and think if their deeds match with Islam or not., If they do not apply
    what Islam indicates, it's their own problem and Islam is innocent of
    them and their deeds Now you need a proof that Islam
    is the true religion

    A little question before answering:
    Have you ever seen Jesus (PBUH)?!!!
    Have you seen one of his miracles?!!!!
    No!!!
    You have read or heared about them, no more!!!!
    So, what is the evidence that there was a prophet called Jesus
    (PBUH)?!!!!
    I told you before I believe in him as a prophet, but I have the proof
    that he was a prophet, however you don't!!!!
    My proof is from the lasting miracle of Islam, i.e., the Holy Quran

    Do not be in a hurry!!!
    Don't say that you have the Bible as my following question would be
    which Bible?!!!! and wich translation?!!! and whish copy? !!! ...etc.
    read what the Holy Quran said about Jesus (PBUH)
    19|30|He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the
    Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet,
    19|31|And hath made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and hath enjoined
    upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I remain alive,
    19|32|And (hath made me) dutiful toward her who bore me, and hath not
    made me arrogant, unblest.
    19|33|Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I
    shall be raised alive!
    see Jesus was glorified in the Holy Quran!!!
    Any way, I am proving that Islam is the true religion through two tubes
    First, By proving it through the Biblical prophecies
    Second, by proving that Quran is God's words
    Read the Following prophecies and tell me was Jesus (PBUH) meant with
    them or somebody else ...
    Isa 42:10 Sing unto the LORD a new song, and
    his praise from the end of the earth,
    ye that go down to the sea, and all that is
    therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.
    Isa 42:11 [COLOR="DarkRed"]Let the wilderness and the cities thereof
    lift up their voice, the villages
    that Kedar doth inhabit
    : let the inhabitants
    of the rock sing
    , let them shout from the top
    of the mountains
    .
    Isa 42:12 Let them give glory unto the LORD, and
    declare his praise in the islands.

    Isa 42:13 The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he
    shall stir up jealousy like a man of war
    : he
    shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.

    Isa 42:14 I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and
    refrained myself: now will I cry like a travailing woman; I will
    destroy and devour at once.
    Isa 42:15 I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their
    herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools.
    Isa 42:16 And I will bring the blind by a way that
    they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I
    will make darkness light before them
    , and crooked things
    straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
    Isa 42:17 They shall be turned back, they shall be
    greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten
    images, Ye are our gods.

    The new song: the chant that pilgrims sing for Hajj and Umrah ye that
    go down to the sea: lift up their voice: exclaiming and acclamation
    "God is the great est" the villages that Kedar doth inhabit : Makkah
    the inhabitants of the rock sing, : Al Madinna
    let them shout from the top of the mountains: That the chant ,
    exclaiming and acclamation "God is the great est" from Arafat Mountain,
    in Makkah Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in
    the islands: Athan (calling for prayers)
    he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies: Jihad
    (holy war )
    Was Jesus like this?!!!! Of course Not !!!!!!!!
    He was slapped, punished, tortured and even killed by the Jews
    - according to your belief-
    so, the prophecy was not about Crist!!!!!! I will bring the blind by a
    way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not
    known: I will make darkness light before them : Arab were not able to
    differinciate between good or bad till the Prophet taught them evry
    thing; enjoined on them that which is right and forbid them that which
    is wrong; led them to the God's path ....

    another one
    Eze 27:21 Arabia, and all the princes of Kedar, they occupied with thee
    in lambs, and rams, and goats: in these were they thy merchants.
    Isa 60:7 All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered
    together unto thee,
    Arabs traded with Christians, right? But they did not convert to
    Christianity!!!
    Arabs were Pagans, then reverted to Islam
    As Islam spread first among Arabs So, this prophecy was for Jesus?!!!!
    Ge25:12 Now these are the generations of
    Ishmael
    , Abraham's son, whom Hagar the Egyptian, Sarah's
    handmaid, bare unto Abraham:
    Ge 25:13 And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their
    names, according to their generations: the firstborn
    of Ishmael, Nebajoth; and Kedar,
    and Adbeel, and Mibsam,
    Ge 25:14 And Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa,
    Ge 25:15 Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah:
    Ge 25:16 These are the sons of Ishmael, and these are their names, by
    their towns, and by their castles; twelve princes
    according to their nations.

    Isa 60:7 All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered
    together unto thee,
    the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto
    thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine
    altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.
    So, Kedar and
    Nebajoth were sons of Ishmael, weren't they?
    The thing is:
    all the flocks of Kedar are Jews, Christians or
    Muslims?!!!

    They are the Muslims And that what Muslims do as they sacrifice at the
    Kaaba.

    Another Prophcy
    Isa 21:13 The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye
    lodge, O ye travelling companies of Dedanim.
    Isa 21:14 The inhabitants of the land of Tema
    brought water to him that was thirsty, they prevented
    with their bread him that fled
    .
    Isa 21:15 For they fled from the swords, from
    the drawn sword, and from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of
    war.
    Isa 21:16 For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Within a year, according
    to the years of an hireling, and all the glory of
    Kedar shall fail
    :
    Isa 21:17 And the residue of the number of archers the
    mighty men of the children of Kedar, shall be diminished
    : for
    the LORD God of Israel hath spoken it.
    O ye travelling companies of Dedanim: He was the Prophet when he
    escaped from Makkah to Madina For they fled from the swords: when
    idolaters wanted to kill him and made a trap Wielding thier swords
    against him
    the land of Tema: a town was in the north of Madina was for Jews
    and all the glory of Kedar shall fail: this happened after Badr Battle,
    2 years after the hegira, the Prophet's emigration.
    later, all of them reverted to Islam
    the residue of the number of archers: 70 of their masters were killed
    in this battle
    Was this prophecy about Jesus (PBUH)?!!!!!!!!

    Be Honest with yourself and answer it...


    Let's pass to the second part
    to prove that the Holy Quran is the God's words

    The Holy Quran could be one of three: the Prophet Muhammad's words; the
    Devil's words or the God's words First, it couldn't be The Prophet's
    wrods for many reasons:
    1- It's style was a chalange to all Arabs to have even ten verses of
    it, but no body could!!!

    2- The style of it is different from the
    Prophet's own style, and different from all kinds and styles of the
    Arabic literature known from that time till now

    3- The holy Quran describes a lot of future events which occured
    exactly as it said. So how could the Prophet unmask himself talking
    about the unknown future, and as a result his followers would be sure
    that he was a liar not a prophet?!!!

    4- The Holy Quran describes a lot of things which scientists have
    started to find out using the most modern high technology
    ex., the stages of a fetus growth, the seven layers of the earth
    ...etc.

    5- The Holy Quran didn't mention any of the most difficult situations
    happend to the Prophet, like his sons, daughters, wives' death!!!!
    If the Holy Quran were the Prophet's words, could he leave these events
    pass witout expressing his sad feelings on it like any poet expresses
    his feelings in his poems?!!!

    6- A complete Sorah in Quran was for the
    story of Mary, the mother of Jesus (PBUH) and this Sorah was named
    after her, however non of the Prophet's wives, sons, daughters
    mentioned with their names in it

    7- What the Quran said matches with
    the modern science.

    8- It has never changed. However, alot of
    disbeleivers tried so many times to do, but in vain!!... and it will
    never change as Allah promised in the Holy Quran
    15|9|Lo! We, even We, reveal the Reminder, and lo! We verily are its
    Guardian.
    Could it be the Devil's?

    How it could be if it were the Devil's?
    We were ordered to worship him;
    Avoid worshipping Allah;
    Commit all kind of sins;
    Drink wine;
    Commit adultery, and so on Islam makes him the first enemy to humans
    and awarned us to follow his steps..

    watch this clip


    it's in arabic and English


    So, how it could be if it's God' words?
    1- an order to worship him alone
    2- a reward for obedients
    3- punishment to disbleivers
    4- an order to do the good deeds for all
    5- warning to harm others
    6- glorification all prophets
    7- the stories of the privious nations to learn from them that Allah is
    Mighty, Wise.
    8- The decencies required for life Read the Holy Quran to find these
    criteria and more of the best quaiities with which life can be great
    My Last Question:
    What are the criteria of the ideal religion, once you find them in a
    religion , you will follow it?
    Waiting for the answer
    Kind regards
    ...



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A debate about the truth of Isalm converted him to Islam

A debate about the truth of Isalm converted him to Islam