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Muslims will be in hell. Did you know that
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Brothers, I offer you to consider some Suras saying that ALL Muslims will be in hell. Did you know that? Let's read one of them today:
Originally posted by Sazie Johnson:
Mr. Muhammad Madian,
You sent us clippings to show that people are accepting Islam. Do you really think that God is interested in majority? Do you really think truth is made right by majority? Do you really believe darkness will overcome light, or Islam will overcome Christianity?
Quran 3:54-55 reads, “And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.” “Behold! Allah said: “O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.”
One scholar comments on the verse: “The first time I read this verse [3:54] in the Koran, I could hardly believe my eyes. Even today, any Muslims I discuss this verse with is shocked. In the Koran, God tells all Muslims that the followers of Jesus will be exalted above the disbelievers until the Day of Resurrection. While there are some verses in the Koran that promise the world to the Muslims people if they follow its teachings, these are followed up with predictions that they will disobey their holy book, and not uphold its commands. God’s prediction that the Christians will succeed in doing so is even clearer in the following verse.” (Ibid., pp. 103-104)”
Then he concluded: “A Muslim may wish to argue that these verses refer to Muhammad and the Muslims as those who truly believe in Christ and dominate till the Resurrection Day. This explanation fails to resolve the issue. The passages do not say that Christ’s followers would only prevail from the time of Muhammad’s advent, but from the time that Christ was taken to God and unto the Day of Resurrection.”
One faithful and dedicated Muslim said, “What is the difference? I am going to hell anyway.” He quoted Allah in Quran 19:70-7. It reads, “Again We do certainly know best those who deserve most to be burned therein (hell). Not one of you but will pass over it (hell): this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.”
Last edited by bahiraomar; 31-05-2011 at 07:10 PM.
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hai you
when u quote from quran wite the name of surah and write the arabic verse
وَمَكَرُواْ وَمَكَرَ اللّهُ وَاللّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ{54} إِذْ قَالَ اللّهُ يَا عِيسَى إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ وَجَاعِلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ{55} فَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ فَأُعَذِّبُهُمْ عَذَاباً شَدِيداً فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالآخِرَةِ وَمَا لَهُم مِّن نَّاصِرِينَ{56} وَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُواْ الصَّالِحَاتِ فَيُوَفِّيهِمْ أُجُورَهُمْ وَاللّهُ لاَ يُحِبُّ الظَّالِمِينَ{57}
now I believe that u are a liar
I give you the arabic text
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God tells all Muslims that the followers of Jesus will be exalted above the disbelievers
where did u get that Mr Shourosh
لقد حاولوا أن يقنعونا بأن ندير لهم خدنا الأيمن إن ضربونا على الأيسر .. وإن كنا فعلنا ذلك , لاستعبدونا لالآف السنين
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Salam brother, I gave you a text translated in English.
By the way it is an authorised Usuf Ali translation. Look at other translations:
إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَىٰ إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَجَاعِلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا إِلَىٰ يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ ۖ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ
Yusuf Ali 55: Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
Shakir 55: And when Allah said: O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed.
Pickthal 55: (And remember) when Allah said: O Jesus! Lo! I am gathering thee and causing thee to ascend unto Me, and am cleansing thee of those who disbelieve and am setting those who follow thee above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then unto Me ye will (all) return, and I shall judge between you as to that wherein ye used to differ.
Mohsin Khan: 55: And (remember) when Allah said: "O 'Îsa (Jesus)! I will take you and raise you to Myself and clear you [of the forged statement that 'Îsa (Jesus) is Allah's son] of those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you (Monotheists, who worship none but Allah) superior to those who disbelieve [in the Oneness of Allah, or disbelieve in some of His Messengers, e.g. Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم, 'Îsa (Jesus), Musa (Moses), etc., or in His Holy Books, e.g. the Taurat (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel), the Qur'an] till the Day of Resurrection . Then you will return to Me and I will judge between you in the matters in which you used to dispute."
Read better this Sura:
ثُمَّ لَنَحْنُ أَعْلَمُ بِالَّذِينَ هُمْ أَوْلَىٰ بِهَا صِلِيًّا
وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَا ۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتْمًا مَّقْضِيًّا
Sura #19 | Makkah
70:71
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ايه يا باشا
هوا انا هستناك طول العمر
انجز
عندنا عيال عايزين نربيها
لقد حاولوا أن يقنعونا بأن ندير لهم خدنا الأيمن إن ضربونا على الأيسر .. وإن كنا فعلنا ذلك , لاستعبدونا لالآف السنين
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good
now we can start
and I will start with a question
what does the word (follow thee) refer to ?
to the Christian
no
because the Christian don not follow Jesus
they follow Matthew ,Thomas, Mark, Luke , John
the real followers is Us
the muslims
and who are (reject faith) ? ha
it is you
who make him a God
لقد حاولوا أن يقنعونا بأن ندير لهم خدنا الأيمن إن ضربونا على الأيسر .. وإن كنا فعلنا ذلك , لاستعبدونا لالآف السنين
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Brother, look the name of the tread: Muslims will be in hell!!! That's why I discuss not who are christians -followers of Jesus but that personally you will be in hell according to what Qur'an says!!!!!
Of course we know who are followers of Jesus- christians. hahahaha
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u rare playing a devilish game my brother
and according to your bible
كثيرون سيقولون لي في ذلك اليوم: يا رب، يا رب أليس باسمك تنبأنا، وباسمك أخرجنا شياطين، وباسمك صنعنا قوات كثيرة
23 فحينئذ أصرح لهم: إني لم أعرفكم قط اذهبوا عني يا فاعلي الإثم
متى 22/23
why he will talk like that ?
to whome will he speak ?
to you my brother
why ?
because you call him God
لقد حاولوا أن يقنعونا بأن ندير لهم خدنا الأيمن إن ضربونا على الأيسر .. وإن كنا فعلنا ذلك , لاستعبدونا لالآف السنين
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Akhi,
Jesus said it because many Christians are nominal Christians but in fact they are sinners/criminals and Jesus said that all such nominal Christians will be in hell!
Who can cast out demons? Only Christians.
Who can preach and prophesize Christianity? Only Christians.
But He said that if Christians sleeps with women or commit other sins then they are sinners and not believers!
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give me the proof from the bible not from your mind
give me the proof that he is speaking to that kind of people
he said many
he did not define
لقد حاولوا أن يقنعونا بأن ندير لهم خدنا الأيمن إن ضربونا على الأيسر .. وإن كنا فعلنا ذلك , لاستعبدونا لالآف السنين
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shakalala2
give me the proof from the bible not from your mind
give me the proof that he is speaking to that kind of people
he said many
he did not define
Brother, look what Ibn Allah said:
وَلَكِنِّي عِنْدَئِذٍ أُصَرِّحُ لَهُمْ: إِنِّي لَمْ أَعْرِفْكُمْ قَطُّ! ابْتَعِدُوا عَنِّي يَافَاعِلِي الإِثْمِ!
Let's read the context:
ﻣﺘﻰ 7
1 لاَ تَدِينُوا لِئَلاَّ تُدَانُوا.
2 فَإِنَّكُمْ بِالدَّيْنُونَةِ الَّتِي بِهَا تَدِينُونَ تُدَانُونَ؛ وَبِالْكَيْلِ الَّذِي بِهِ تَكِيلُونَ يُكَالُ لَكُمْ.
3 لِمَاذَا تُلاَحِظُ الْقَشَّةَ فِي عَيْنِ أَخِيكَ، وَلكِنَّكَ لاَ تَتَنَبَّهُ إِلَى الْخَشَبَةِ الْكَبِيرَةِ فِي عَيْنِكَ؟
4 أَوْ كَيْفَ تَقُولُ لأَخِيكَ: دَعْنِي أُخْرِجُ الْقَشَّةَ مِنْ عَيْنِكَ، وَهَا هِيَ الْخَشَبَةُ فِي عَيْنِكَ أَنْتَ!
5 يَامُرَائِي! أَخْرِجْ أَوَّلاً الْخَشَبَةَ مِنْ عَيْنِكَ، وَعِنْدَئِذٍ تُبْصِرُ جَيِّداً لِتُخْرِجَ الْقَشَّةَ مِنْ عَيْنِ أَخِيكَ.
6 لاَ تُعْطُوا مَا هُوَ مُقَدَّسٌ لِلْكِلاَبِ، وَلاَ تَطْرَحُوا جَوَاهِرَكُمْ أَمَامَ الْخَنَازِيرِ، لِكَيْ لاَ تَدُوسَهَا بِأَرْجُلِهَا وَتَنْقَلِبَ عَلَيْكُمْ فَتُمَزِّقَكُمْ.
7 اِسْأَلُوا، تُعْطَوْا. اُطْلُبُوا، تَجِدُوا. اِقْرَعُوا، يُفْتَحْ لَكُمْ.
8 فَكُلُّ مَنْ يَسْأَلْ، يَنَلْ؛ وَمَنْ يَطْلُبْ، يَجِدْ؛ وَمَنْ يَقْرَعْ، يُفْتَحْ لَهُ.
9 وَإِلاَّ، فَأَيُّ إِنْسَانٍ مِنْكُمْ يَطْلُبُ مِنْهُ ابْنُهُ خُبْزاً، فَيُعْطِيهِ حَجَراً،
10 أَوْ سَمَكَةً، فَيُعْطِيهِ حَيَّةً؟
11 فَإِنْ كُنْتُمْ وَأَنْتُمْ أَشْرَارٌ، تَعْرِفُونَ أَنْ تُعْطُوا أَوْلاَدَكُمْ عَطَايَا جَيِّدَةً، فَكَمْ بِالأَحْرَى جِدّاً يُعْطِي أَبُوكُمُ السَّمَاوِيُّ عَطَايَا جَيِّدَةً لِلَّذِينَ يَطْلُبُونَ مِنْهُ؟
12 إِذَنْ، كُلُّ مَا تُرِيدُونَ أَنْ يُعَامِلَكُمُ النَّاسُ بِهِ، فَعَامِلُوهُمْ أَنْتُمْ بِهِ أَيْضاً: هَذِهِ خُلاَصَةُ تَعْلِيمِ الشَّرِيعَةِ وَالأَنْبِيَاءِ.
13 اُدْخُلُوا مِنَ الْبَابِ الضَّيِّقِ! فَإِنَّ الْبَابَ الْمُؤَدِّيَ إِلَى الْهَلاَكِ وَاسِعٌ وَطَرِيقَهُ رَحْبٌ؛ وَكَثِيرُونَ هُمُ الَّذِينَ يَدْخُلُونَ مِنْهُ.
14 مَا أَضْيَقَ الْبَابَ وَأَعْسَرَ الطَّرِيقَ الْمُؤَدِّيَ إِلَى الْحَيَاةِ! وَقَلِيلُونَ هُمُ الَّذِينَ يَهْتَدُونَ إِلَيْهِ.
15 اِحْذَرُوا الأَنْبِيَاءَ الدَّجَّالِينَ الَّذِينَ يَأْتُونَ إِلَيْكُمْ لاَبِسِينَ ثِيَابَ الْحُمْلانِ، وَلَكِنَّهُمْ مِنَ الدَّاخِلِ ذِئَابٌ خَاطِفَةٌ!
16 مِنْ ثِمَارِهِمْ تَعْرِفُونَهُمْ. هَلْ يُجْنَى مِنَ الشَّوْكِ عِنَبٌ، أَوْ مِنَ الْعُلَّيْقِ تِينٌ؟
17 هَكَذَا، كُلُّ شَجَرَةٍ جَيِّدَةٍ تُثْمِرُ ثَمَراً جَيِّداً. أَمَّا الشَّجَرَةُ الرَّدِيئَةُ، فَإِنَّهَا تُثْمِرُ ثَمَراً رَدِيئاً.
18 لاَ يُمْكِنُ أَنْ تُثْمِرَ الشَّجَرَةُ الْجَيِّدَةُ ثَمَراً رَدِيئاً، وَلاَ الشَّجَرَةُ الرَّدِيئَةُ ثَمَراً جَيِّداً.
19 وَكُلُّ شَجَرَةٍ لاَ تُثْمِرُ ثَمَراً جَيِّداً، تُقْطَعُ وَتُطْرَحُ فِي النَّارِ.
20 إِذَنْ مِنْ ثِمَارِهِمْ تَعْرِفُونَهُمْ.
21 لَيْسَ كُلُّ مَنْ يَقُولُ لِي: يَارَبُّ، يَارَبُّ! يَدْخُلُ مَلَكُوتَ السَّمَاوَاتِ، بَلْ مَنْ يَعْمَلُ بِإِرَادَةِ أَبِي الَّذِي فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ.
22 فِي ذَلِكَ الْيَوْمِ سَيَقُولُ لِي كَثِيرُونَ: يَارَبُّ، يَارَبُّ، أَلَيْسَ بِاسْمِكَ تَنَبَّأْنَا، وَبِاسْمِكَ طَرَدْنَا الشَّيَاطِينَ، وَبِاسْمِكَ عَمِلْنَا مُعْجِزَاتٍ كَثِيرَةً؟
23 وَلَكِنِّي عِنْدَئِذٍ أُصَرِّحُ لَهُمْ: إِنِّي لَمْ أَعْرِفْكُمْ قَطُّ! ابْتَعِدُوا عَنِّي يَافَاعِلِي الإِثْمِ!
24 فَأَيُّ مَنْ يَسْمَعُ أَقْوَالِي هَذِهِ وَيَعْمَلُ بِهَا، أُشَبِّهُهُ بِرَجُلٍ حَكِيمٍ بَنَى بَيْتَهُ عَلَى الصَّخْرِ،
25 فَنَزَلَتِ الأَمْطَارُ، وَجَرَتِ السُّيُولُ، وَهَبَّتِ الْعَوَاصِفُ، فَضَرَبَتْ ذَلِكَ الْبَيْتَ، فَلَمْ يَسْقُطْ لأَنَّهُ مُؤَسَّسٌ عَلَى الصَّخْرِ.
26 وَأَيُّ مَنْ يَسْمَعُ أَقْوَالِي هَذِهِ وَلاَ يَعْمَلُ بِهَا، يُشَبَّهُ بِرَجُلٍ غَبِيٍّ بَنَى بَيْتَهُ عَلَى الرَّمْلِ،
27 فَنَزَلَتْ الأَمْطَارُ، وَجَرَتْ السُّيُولُ، وَهَبَّتِ الْعَوَاصِفُ، فَضَرَبَتْ ذَلِكَ الْبَيْتَ، فَسَقَطَ، وَكَانَ سُقُوطُهُ عَظِيماً»
28 وَلَمَّا أَنْهَى يَسُوعُ هَذَا الْكَلاَمَ، ذُهِلَتِ الْجُمُوعُ مِنْ تَعْلِيمِهِ،
29 لأَنَّهُ كَانَ يُعَلِّمُهُمْ كَصَاحِبِ سُلْطَانٍ، وَلَيْسَ مِثْلَ كَتَبَتِهِمْ.
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