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    مثبــت: How many times do you have to put this link so...

    How many times do you have to put this link so that you can read it? I'm really afraid that you are missing a lot of what I'm saying.
    Here you are again :


    It's not important to me whether you...
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    مثبــت: Well, I bet you yourself know that what you're...

    Well, I bet you yourself know that what you're saying here is just nonsense.
    Philo was just a jewish heretic, he made up these ideas, Jesus Pbuh and Philo were living at the same time, the author of...
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    مثبــت: There are no false prophecies in the Bible, and...

    There are no false prophecies in the Bible, and there are no prophecies I know of in the Quran. Saying someone will win a battle and that happens could be a lucky guess or a calculated probability...
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    مثبــت: Actually, it doesn't answer anything at all. How...

    Actually, it doesn't answer anything at all. How do you know that the message of the gospel is completely true and intact?
    If the Bible contains errors and contradictions, how can I trust it as a...
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    مثبــت: مشاهدة المشاركة

    This was my first question

    You just didn’t bother to answer it

    According to Jesus, the Father was his God and the only true God
    So, it seems you believe that the Father is the God of Jesus but...
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    مثبــت: Sorry for my long absence,will be back after the...

    Sorry for my long absence,will be back after the end of Ramadan ISA
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    مثبــت: Surely, you didn't. Address the following :...

    Surely, you didn't.


    Address the following :
    1- All what has been mentioned in my posts after your last post.tha2- How do you believe that Jesus Pbuh was God although he declared that the Father...
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    مثبــت: If you see that the concept of a one God in Islam...

    If you see that the concept of a one God in Islam is just borrowed from Judaism and Christianity, then actually there is no use of this discussion, you just have fixed ideas that you don't want to...
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    مثبــت: Well, the main reason that makes me sure that the...

    Well, the main reason that makes me sure that the trinity is a made-up faith isn't that it's not logic or that it's difficult to understand, the main reason is that - as I told you previously - it's...
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    مثبــت: Burninglight, you just want to argue about clear...

    Burninglight, you just want to argue about clear issues.


    This ridiculous claim shows that you know nothing about Islam.
    We don't worship prophet Muhammad Pbuh at all, we only worship God.
    Read...
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    مثبــت: I just sometimes think that you are making some...

    I just sometimes think that you are making some ridiculous claims just to avoid admitting that your points were answered.

    I told you that the proof that the holy Quran has been 100% preserved is...
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    مثبــت: Well I really don't...

    Well I really don't understand the point of this discussion
    I am a muslim and I feel safe as long as :
    1- I believe in God and his messenger Muhammad Pbuh and his book the holy Quran and his...
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    مثبــت: Salvation

    So, according to what all people know, justice is to punish the one who did the mistake, it's not to kill yourself or your son because someone else did a sin.
    So, don't keep on telling us that the...
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    مثبــت: Virgin birth

    It surely disproves it.
    I can't imaging that a man who is coming to the world through the genital organs of a woman is God. I really don't understand how can you believe this ?
    I can't imagine that...
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    مثبــت: I asked the admins and they told me that they...

    I asked the admins and they told me that they explained the issue for you. The posts of all members are reviwed first in this section and the islamic section, whether they are muslims or christians....
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    مثبــت: Well, usually the forum is closed during the...

    Well, usually the forum is closed during the month of Ramadan, so probably it will be closed very soon. So I will answer you and we can continue after the end of Ramadan.
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    مثبــت: Sure, I will speak to them. Well, I told you...

    Sure, I will speak to them.


    Well, I told you before that these are the rules of the forum that apply for both muslims and christians. If you want to keep on saying that this shows that this...
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    مثبــت: Actually, I am not trying to be evasive, but I...

    Actually, I am not trying to be evasive, but I have answered in details all the points you were talking about, and this took me more than a week, and you didn't bother to discuss anything of what I...
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    مثبــت: Burninglight, are you kidding? Is this your...

    Burninglight, are you kidding? Is this your answer to all my previous posts?
    Even your claims in your last post have been answered by me before in another thread, but you're just repeating the same...
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    مثبــت: The thread is open again. Sorry for closing it...

    The thread is open again. Sorry for closing it all this time. Kindly answer all my points.
  21. الموضوع: Trinity and development of doctorine

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    مثبــت: If you believe that the Bible is just a story...

    If you believe that the Bible is just a story that contains spurious parts
    How do you know that anything that you read in it is true?



    Just emotions ......
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    مثبــت: Well, according to the Bible, the disciples have...

    Well, according to the Bible, the disciples have the authority to forgive sins too
    John 20
    21 Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father sent me, so I am sending you.” 22 Then he...
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    مثبــت: NO, surely this word is referring to David not...

    NO, surely this word is referring to David not Jesus Pbuh.
    Let's read Psalms 2 again :

    7. I will tell of the decree; The Lord said to me, "You are My son; this day have I begotten you.


    The...
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    مثبــت: First of all, God didn't say in the Quran that...

    First of all, God didn't say in the Quran that Christians consider virgin Mary to be a part of the trinity
    I challenge you to find any verse in the holy Quran saying that the trinity is composed of...
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    مثبــت: I don't know what exactly do you mean? and what...

    I don't know what exactly do you mean? and what is the source of this strange claim?
    You are claiming that Prophet Muhammad Pbuh didn't know God's name
    Prove your claim!
    In Islam, God has many...
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    مثبــت: Answer : 1- Epistle to Hebrews has been...

    Answer :

    1- Epistle to Hebrews has been disputed by some of the early christians as mentioned by Eusebius
    http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.viii.iii.html



    2- There is a great...
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    مثبــت: So now, what you can't deny, is that Philo who...

    So now, what you can't deny, is that Philo who lived while Jesus Pbuh was alive (20 BC-50 AD), is the one who developed the concept of the Logos or the word as a divine being and according to Philo...
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    مثبــت: Actually I don't see a difference between ( the...

    Actually I don't see a difference between ( the beginning of the creation of God) and ( the begiining of God's creation)
    Here is another translation saying that the Christ is the beginning of God's...
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    مثبــت: Excuse me, I will close this thread till I finish...

    Excuse me, I will close this thread till I finish my answer completely so that you don't interrupt me. As soon as I finish my answer, I'll open the thread and give you the chance to answer. I expect...
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    مثبــت: Here, there is misunderstanding from you Let me...

    Here, there is misunderstanding from you
    Let me explain to you first, how was the holy Quran transferred to us from the time of prophet Muhammad Pbuh
    The Quran was transferred to us in 2 ways:...
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    مثبــت: I am also amazed that you think that although 1...

    I am also amazed that you think that although 1 John 5:7 is spurious, it doesn't affect the central message of the Bible.
    It surely affects it.
    If this sentence is authentic then the Bible surely...
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    مثبــت: Very good that you admitted it is spurious...

    Very good that you admitted it is spurious
    Actually, there is no concept of a triune God in the Bible
    The Bible mentions that there is only one God in both the OT and the NT
    Jesus Pbuh makes it...
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    مثبــت: To find the true religion, you have to be...

    To find the true religion, you have to be completely neutral as much as you can and you have to put aside your emotions and to think with your brain.
    You have been brought up as a christian and you...
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    مثبــت: Well, I think that most of your last answer is...

    Well, I think that most of your last answer is just emotional and that you are just ignoring most of what I'm saying to you and you just didn't answer the points mentioned in my last posts. Anyway,...
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    مثبــت: Of course, not. All the prophets of the old...

    Of course, not.
    All the prophets of the old testament believed that there is only one God, the heavenly Father.
    None of them believed in the trinity or that God had a son who will come to earth as...
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    مثبــت: Compare the opening of Luke's gospel to the...

    Compare the opening of Luke's gospel to the openings of some of the suras (chapters) of the Quran

    This is the beginning of Luke's gospel

    1 Many people have already applied themselves to the...
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    مثبــت: I really respect these words : Here...

    I really respect these words :




    Here there is a misunderestanding.
    The holy Quran states that the words of God are unaltered and unchangeable.
    The words of God here means his promises and...
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    مثبــت: Well, I'll tell you the reasons briefly and we...

    Well, I'll tell you the reasons briefly and we can discuss them in details afterwards.

    Regarding Christianity :
    1- The beliefs of christians are built on mere conclusions, they were not taught by...
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    مثبــت: Burninglight, this is the rule in this forum for...

    Burninglight, this is the rule in this forum for everyone whether he is a muslim or a christian. This rule applies for every member and it even applied for me when I was a new member few years ago....
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    مثبــت: Burninglight, I'd rather we close side talks in...

    Burninglight, I'd rather we close side talks in other pages and concentrate here or open a new page for dialogue with you. Don't you think this is true?
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    مثبــت: I was born to a muslim family, but if I had been...

    I was born to a muslim family, but if I had been born to a christian family I would have converted.
    I compared Islam, Christianity and Judaism and I was as fair as possible and I am completely sure...
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    مثبــت: Burninglight, I am sorry I was very busy today so...

    Burninglight, I am sorry I was very busy today so I didn't have time to answer you. I am looking forwards to continuing this discussion with you either tomorrow or maximum by Friday.
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    مثبــت: First of all, I would like to tell you welcome to...

    First of all, I would like to tell you welcome to this forum.
    It will be a pleasure for me to have a discussion with you about the trinity if you have time.
    I will answer your previous post in...
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    مثبــت: مشاهدة المشاركة

    جزانا و إياكم أختنا الفاضلة
    للرفع
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    مثبــت: Dear brother Authentic man,thank you and may God...

    Dear brother Authentic man,thank you and may God bless you
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    مثبــت: http://articulifidei.blogspot.com/2008/06/trinity-...

    http://articulifidei.blogspot.com/2008/06/trinity-and-development-of-doctrine.html
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    The Trinity and the Development of Doctrine

    In countless books on the Trinity (countless in the sense that I do not wish to devote the considerable amount of time it would take to actually count...
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