women in christianity in both new and old testaments

Starting with the glory testament
The new testament

So let’s see what the new testament say abou women

Let’s see the equality in the new testament

women must be in submission

1 Corinthians 11

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...11&version=NIV

3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved. 6 If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. 7A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9neither was man created for woman, but woman for man

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 -New International Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...14&version=NIV

34 women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.




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Jesus considers women as dirt that defiles men

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...14&version=NIV

Revelation 14:4 "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb."

freedom to wear what she want

1 Timothy 2:9-10
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+2&version=NIV

"I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God"

more about submission in the new testament

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...ersion=NIV=NIV

1 Peter 3 - New International Version

1Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands

100% equality

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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+3&version=NIV

Colossians 3 - New International Version
18 Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord


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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+5&version=NIV

Ephesians 5 - New International Version

Wives and Husbands

22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

wife must submit to her husband in everything in the new testament


Birth of any female is a loss: Ecclesiasticus 22:3 "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss" (From the New Jerusalem Bible. It's a Roman Catholics Bible).

soooooooo where can i find equality

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now let’s see women in the old testament


1- Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.


2- A man could marry (literally "become the master of the woman") as often as he desired. In Genesis 4:19, Lamech became the first known polygamist when he took two wives. Subsequent men who took multiple wives included: Esau with 3 wives; Jacob: 2; Ashur: 2; Gideon: many; Elkanah: 2; David: many; Solomon: 700 wives of royal birth; Rehaboam: 3; Abijah: 14. Jehoram, Joash, Ahab, Jeholachin and Belshazzar also had multiple wives


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3- Women in the bible is just like property of her father. At marriage, her ownership was transferred to her new husband

Exodus 20 -New International Version

The Ten Commandments

17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."
It is important to realize that a manservent and a maidservant were male and female slaves. They were not a hired butler and maid. The tenth commandment forbids coveting your neighbor's house, wife, male slave female slave, animals or anything else that the neighbor owns. The wife is clearly regarded as equivalent to a piece of property.


Exodus 21 -New International Version

2 "If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.

A slaveowner was permitted to give a woman to his male slave as a wife. There is no indication that women were consulted during this type of transaction. After serving six years, he would leave, but his wife and children would remain slaves of the slaveowner. Again, there is no indication that the woman was consulted on this arrangement

Exodus 21 - New International Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...21&version=NIV

7 "If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do
A father could sell his daughter as a slave. Even though a male slave is automatically given his freedom after 6 years, a female slave remained a slave forever.


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Exodus 22 - New International Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...22&version=NIV


16 "If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. 17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins


The first seventeen verses of Exodus 22 deal with restitution in case of stealing, or damage to, a person's property. Verses 16 and 17 deal with the case of a man who seduces a virgin. This was viewed as a property offense against the woman's father. The woman was expected to marry the seducer. If her father refused to transfer ownership of his daughter to the seducer, the latter was required to required to pay money to her father. The money would be in compensation for the damage to the father's property - his daughter. It would be difficult for a non-virgin to marry


Exodus 21 - New International Version

22 "If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely [e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

describes a situation in which two men are fighting and one hits a pregnant woman. If the woman has a miscarriage because of the blow, the man is punished as the husband decides and must pay a fine for their act - not to the woman, but to her husband, presumably because he has been deprived of a child. The woman had no involvement. Exodus 21:22: "...he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine."


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موفقة يا قمري

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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Great job, sister
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May Allah bless you

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة حفنة تراب

more about submission in the new testament

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Could you let me add something about her position In the Bible?


Woman has no right to witness
The witness is of 2 men only, no women
Joh:8:17: It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

1 man = 100 women
`0415104 In law, according to one
rabbi, "a hundred women are equal to only one witness."
The source
THE STORY OF CIVILIZATION
VOLUME FOUR
THE AGE OF FAITH

Why?
They considered woman "light-minded," `041599
The source:
THE STORY OF CIVILIZATION
VOLUME FOUR
THE AGE OF FAITH
1950
A History of Medieval Civilization-
Christian, Islamic, and Judaicfrom
Constantine to Dante: A.D. 325-1300

Why?
Women have no right to speak in churches… it is shame!!!

1Co:14:34: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co:14:35: And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Why?
Because her position is lower than men!!!
According to
A Treatise On The Status Of Woman And The Origin And Growth Of The Family And The State
http://books.google.com.sa/books?id=...ianity&f=false


Why?
Because women were unclean during the first 3 centuries, the time of real Christianity!!!!
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But there are 7 days she is unclean until the even!!!!!

Le 15:19 And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and
whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.
Le 15:20 And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean.
Le 15:21 And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
Le 15:22 And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
Le 15:23 And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even.
Le 15:24 And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean.
Le 15:25 And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she shall be unclean.
Le15:26 Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation.
Le15:27 And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
Le15:28 But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean.

So, what about if she has the period and she needs to get in the court?!!!
The court and the judge … etc, will be unclean until the even!!!!!!!!
Poor Christian women!!!!

With my regards
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Thank you brother for you helpful participation
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may allah bless you

4- having a baby is a highly polluting act. To give birth to a girl is twice as polluting as is giving birth to a boy

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...12&version=NIV

Leviticus 12
Purification After Childbirth
1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Say to the Israelites: 'A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period. 3 On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. 4 Then the woman must wait thirty-three days to be purified from her bleeding. She must not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the days of her purification are over. 5 If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding.


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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة " نور الإسلام "

:king-56: الله يسلم الايدين اللي كتبتهن

موفقة يا قمري

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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

الله يسلمك يا عمري
جزاك الله خيراً أختي الحبيبة على مرورك العطر الذي أسعد قلبي :hb:

5-Women defile man even if he was the adulterer

In Leviticus 18:20 adultery was defined as a man having sexual
intercourse with his neighbor's wife

20 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor's wife and defile yourself with her.”


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...18&version=NIV

6- The adulteress women shall be put to death


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...20&version=NIV

Leviticus 20:10
10 " 'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

If a man raped a virgin both must be put to death

Deuteronomy 22 - New International Version
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.


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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

This book will be helpful ....you can download it from the attachments.

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Jazakum Allah Khaira

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

جزاك الله خيراً أخي الفاضل أبو علي الفلسطيني

و أشكرك على الكتاب و أسأل الله تعالى أن يجعل تعاونك في ميزان حسناتك

7- Divorce can only be initiated by the husband, not by the wife

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...24&version=NIV

Deuteronomy 24
1 If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house


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8- If the husband of a women died she must marry her former brother-in-law

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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...25&version=NIV


Deuteronomy 25 - New International Version

5 If brothers are living together and one of them dies without a son, his widow must not marry outside the family. Her husband's brother shall take her and marry her and fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to her. 6 The first son she bears shall carry on the name of the dead brother so that his name will not be blotted out from Israel.
7 However, if a man does not want to marry his brother's wife, she shall go to the elders at the town gate and say, "My husband's brother refuses to carry on his brother's name in Israel. He will not fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to me." 8 Then the elders of his town shall summon him and talk to him. If he persists in saying, "I do not want to marry her," 9 his brother's widow shall go up to him in the presence of the elders, take off one of his sandals, spit in his face and say, "This is what is done to the man who will not build up his brother's family line." 10 That man's line shall be known in Israel as The Family of the Unsandaled.



states that if a woman is widowed, she would be required to marry her former brother-in-law. This was called a "levirate" marriage. Their first-born son will later be considered to be the son of the deceased husband. The man could refuse to marry her. Women were not given a choice in the matter

i keep asking myself what if she hates him :p016:

Gazaky ALLAH khayra sister

May ALLAH make it in the balance of your good deeds in the day of judgement

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

جزاك الله خيراً أختي الحبيبة د/مسلمة على مرورك الطيب الذي أكرمني و أسعدني :hb:

9- If a woman tries to save her husband from a beating by grabbing the other man's private parts to lift him off her husband, then both her hands must get cut off

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...25&version=NIV

Deuteronomy 25 - New International Version

11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.

10- The father can give his daughters to be raped

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...19&version=NIV

Judges 19 -New International Version

23 The owner of the house went outside and said to them, "No, my friends, don't be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don't do this disgraceful thing. 24 Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But to this man, don't do such a disgraceful thing."

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11- Women as sexual predators

This passage describes how Lot's two daughters made their father drunk with wine on two successive nights. Each daughter committed incest with her father, and became pregnant. Their two sons, Moab and Ben-Ammi became the patriarchs of the Moabite and Ammonite people, who were two of Israel's most serious foes.


Genesis 19 - New International Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...19&version=NIV

Lot and His Daughters
30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is no man around here to lie with us, as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let's get our father to drink wine and then lie with him and preserve our family line through our father."
33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and lay with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, "Last night I lay with my father. Let's get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and lie with him so we can preserve our family line through our father." 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went and lay with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
36 So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab [g] ; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi [h] ; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.


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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
thank you for all
and thanking for GOD as he raise the human man and women
وَلَقَدْ كَرَّمْنَا بَنِي آدَمَ وَحَمَلْنَاهُمْ فِي الْبَرِّ وَالْبَحْرِ وَرَزَقْنَاهُم مِّنَ الطَّيِّبَاتِ وَفَضَّلْنَاهُمْ عَلَى كَثِيرٍ مِّمَّنْ خَلَقْنَا تَفْضِيلاً (70)

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Now you are really being offensive.. I thought you were than this.. :(

That doesn't mean God approve of all this or told them to do it. The Bible records the deeds of man good and bad. Some times God wink at the ignorance of men and some times He dealt with it. All fall short of God's glory and have sinned that includes all prophets (Jesus the only exception). The wages of sin is death, but God's gift is eternal life through Jesus Christ out Lord

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Burninglight

That doesn't mean God approve of all this or told them to do it.

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2Timothy 3 : 16

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

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