I can agree with you that Islam is a religion of the mind. Christianity is not. It doesn't deal with the mind as much as the heart. If the Bible is full of fake stories of passion, why did Islam borrow the virgin birth story from it or use the Song of Solomon to support prophecy about Muhammad when Muslims consider that a book of pornography? I wish you could see through my eyes for one minute on each point made.اقتباس:
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peace to you
We believe that part of the Bible typeface, it porn stories such as Song of Solomonاقتباس:
why did Islam borrow the virgin birth story from it or use the Song of Solomon to support prophecy about Muhammad when Muslims consider that a book of pornography? I wish you could see through my eyes for one minute on each point made.
We believe that the Bible Word of God
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And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.
So: the source of the Koran. Torah. The Bible is God
For this, there are some texts in the Qur'an agree with the Bible
But if the Prophet Muhammad (illiterate) borrowed from the Bible (non-Arab) Why:
There is a difference in the texts
Why the Prophet Muhammad admonished the Jews and the Christians?
I do not see, but the mind
Porn is illicit sex outside of marriage for the purpose of making money and feeding the spirit of lust which is to be carnal minded which is also death. Read how Christianity is against the such in Paul's letters. Songs of Solomon describes lawful sex between a married man and his wife. God created sex. If you are ashamed of it, you are ashamed of God. Why do Muslim try to use Song of Solomon to confirm Muhammad's prophet hood?اقتباس:
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You'll get no argument from me here.اقتباس:
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Because he borrowed what he wanted and not all of it. The virgin birth of Jesus is borrowed from the NT Bible, but he didn't borrow the reason for it from the gospel Allah said he sent down. That is the gospel Allah spoke of. Allah tells Muhammad to check with us people of the Book about his prophet hood and all, does it not?اقتباس:
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In what way? As I mentioned, it was Allah that told Muhammad to check with us people of the book about his prophet hood so how could Muhammad admonished the Christians? Think and pray about it for a little while before you respond please.اقتباس:
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Peace be unto you.
Warning for the last time, do not write the name of Muhammad only, but the Prophet Muhammad
Do not force us to evict you
By the way / you alone can destroy the Christian faith
In your opinion:
Priests distorted the Bible
Apostles and prophets stick
Bible texts pornographic
Christian faith does not depend on the mind
For this I do not see the usefulness of the dialogue with you, because you recognize thatChristianity is impossible to be a meaningful message
However attacking Islam
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Have you seen he who has taken as his god his [own] desire, and Allah has sent him astray due to knowledge and has set a seal upon his hearing and his heart and put over his vision a veil? So who will guide him after Allah ? Then will you not be reminded?
I never say prophet Jesus and I don't try and force you to say it either. I don't try to force you not to call Jesus son of his mother Mary which I consider disrespectful. Why are you trying to force me to say what I don't believe with threats?اقتباس:
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Are you a moderator? I don't refer to any prophets in the Bible as prophet Jonah or prophet Jeremiah or prophet Moses. I just call them Abraham, Moses, and Jeremiah. Why are you trying to put a trip on me? What is your agenda here? Is it to get me evicted? You cannot force someone to do what they want to do! Be honest please.
There is a seal on me for redemption. I have been sealed by the blood of Christ Jesus. I really don't appreciated being threaten by you. You are interpreting my not saying "prophet Muhammad" as an attack against Islam. You are wrong about that and to force someone to say what they don't believe especial when they don't say the word prophet to describe their own prophets in the Bible.
If you are not a moderator, one needs to confront this issue. Those that take their [own] desire for god going astray and God placing a seal upon their hearing and their heart and put over their vision a veil is borrowed from the Bible. It was written before the birth of Islam: "Those who refuse the love of truth, God sends them a strong delusion that they may believe a lie" So if you are implying that borrowed paraphrased verse is for me, Christianity claims it first, but not for Christians.
Peace be unto you
What do you mean by attacking Islam? Do you consider saying our Holy Bible is corrupted an attack on Christianity? If you can say that about our Holy Bible why can't we same the same about that which comes against our Holy Bible? If WE CANNOT, Isn't that considered a double standard? So just how are attacks from the only two Christians on the forum happening against Islam? I tried starting a thread where nothing negative is said about either religion. Now, I am getting warnings that I should say "prophet Muhammad" I thought their was no compulsion in religion? Why then are you trying to compel me to refer to Islam's messenger as a prophet of God? Is this a double standard? Why the inconsistency? Please explain. Thank you. We don't have an overly respect for prophets, but we do for the word of God they share or that any person shares. We believe to overly respect prophets as better human beings is man worship, and we don't want to sin against our Lord and God
Peace be unto you.
I never said, that Christianity is impossible to be a meaningful message. You said I said that which is twisting the truth. If you are going to tell me what my opinion is and distort the meaning of what I said, and delay posting my comments, I don't see the usefulness of dialogue with you either. Maybe someone else should address my posts so we can have mutual respect and patience with one another. that is all I want. I am not wanting to offend anyone, some times it is not avoidable if you know what I mean.اقتباس:
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Peace
Not my problem. That you did not read the Forum Rules before registering
Do not write the name of Muhammad abstract, is not just someone
You can tell the Messenger of Islam
Do not you think that Muhammad is the Messenger of Islam?
I am director of the forum, and this is our laws. You must be respected
As for the name of Jesus son of Mary, Mrs Mary honor, is not dignified women in Christianity
Do you become a mother insult?
You do not need to force us to respect the Christ (peace be upon him). Our faith compels us to it
On the other hand should show a little respect
You write enough just to write only
I will look at the forum rules more closely. I don't want to break the rules of the forum. If I have, I apologize and I will comply.اقتباس:
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I can agree the term Prophet of Islam would be fair for us to use.
I think muslims honour Mary in a similar way that Catholics do. I find it odd that Mary should be honoured so in the Quran, even to having a Sura named for her. Why is this honour for Mary above the mothers of other Prophets? What makes Mary special above other mothers in Islam?
Blessings