Messenger of Islam?

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة *اسلامي عزي*

wonderful words !

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listen to this jewish Rabii who says :

islam is an ancient raligion
islam is the religion of Adam , Noah , Abraham , Isaac and all prophets .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FpJH08wh3U



I think God's promise has been achieved ,
and Muslims are this promised great nation ,



the jewish Rabbi Daniel Lapin says :

but God listen to him ( Muslims) in different ways (time 2: 38)
the french jewish Rabbi RoN Chaya also says the same words.
let me translate for you.

he says :
In the TORAH there's no word for coincidence,=====> ISHMAEL
Muslims ( ISHMAEL ) are the only nation who worship our God EL (God of Abraham) wiht out incarnation .
God heard Muslims five times a day,
From Pakistan to Morocco you can hear " ALLAHo akbar " God is great five times a day .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_ijzg1q-OY





any comment ???

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If I believed that it was Ishmael instead of Isaac that Abraham was going to sacrifice that would be a strong argument in favor of Islam; however, the fact that Islam doesn't believe God sacrificed His only son (Jesus) like Abraham was about to do gives Islam away. Had Muhammad agreed about Jesus death and denied the virgin birth, he would have had a greater Christian following, but as it stands, there are too many holes to carry water. That is not the case with the Scriptures that came before

I thought the Isaac Ishmael question had been done already. The Quran does not state it was Ishmael.. Muslims have inferred that. In fact, I believe Islamic scholars themselves are divided on this issue. The Bible is clear on who is the child of promise.. Isaac.. And why.

God promised to bless Ishmael, and make him a father of many nations.. This God did. However, I'm not sure if any of these "nations" would be seen as being particularly blessed today.. With the conflict and turmoil existing among them.

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If I believed that it was Ishmael instead of Isaac that Abraham was going to sacrifice that would be a strong argument in favor of Islam; however, the fact that Islam doesn't believe God sacrificed His only son (Jesus) like Abraham was about to do gives Islam away.

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Jesus comes to the world in order to make amends for the sin of Adam .
Abraham tries to sacriface his only son هin response to the God 's Command .
There is no way to make a comparaison here.

اقتباس:

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Had Muhammad agreed about Jesus death and denied the virgin birth, he would have had a greater Christian following

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The holy Quran denies clearly the incarnation , the crucifixion and the death of jesus but he accepts the concept of his virgin birth .
Do you think if our prophet Muhammad :salla: would have a greater people following if he tell him that God come out of two prostitute's line ???


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اقتباس:

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God promised to bless Ishmael, and make him a father of many nations.. This God did. However, I'm not sure if any of these "nations" would be seen as being particularly blessed today.. With the conflict and turmoil existing among them.

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Here are the blessed =====> thePeaceful people who fill mosques and streets !
Not the head ' s cutters !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goL-rtGILgM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpHFCQKuEGI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FdMNdFUCrY


The last video is from Russia .

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Thankfully I don't get your videos on my device... :) so cannot comment on your post.

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة *اسلامي عزي*

Do you think if our prophet Muhammad :salla: would have a greater people following if he tell him that God come out of two prostitute's line ???

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Any answer ????


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اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة *اسلامي عزي*

Any answer ????


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What do you me by that? Give an example or prove it!

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Burninglight

What do you me by that? Give an example or prove it!

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If someone tells you that God come out of two prostitute's line do you follow him ???
If someone tells you that God had two prostitute as ancestors / predecessors , do you believe him ????

I think my question is very clear .

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة *اسلامي عزي*

If someone tells you that God come out of two prostitute's line do you follow him ???
If someone tells you that God had two prostitute as ancestors / predecessors , do you believe him ????

I think my question is very clear .

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It is not clear. How can God have human ancestors. God created human beings; so your question doesn't make sense and is not clear. If you are to referring to Jesus who is the son of God, you wouldn't understand that Jesus preexisted as the word of God who is eternal and uncreated. It is not through a woman's line man receives his spiritual inheritance or position; besides, whom God forgives and cleanses call not a prostitute.
Peace

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Burninglight

How can God have human ancestors.

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wonderful and logical words !

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of course God can not have human ancestors !
but your holy scriptures says the opposite ...???!!! :p016:
the supposed God ( Jesus) had an address ( Nazareth), a Profession( Carpenter) , and ancestors !
below the genealogy of the Jesus (the supposed God) :

MAT 1 :


ملف مرفق 13752

اقتباس:

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Do you think if our prophet Muhammad :salla: would have a greater people following if he tell him that God come out of two prostitute's line ???

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i' think the answer is very easy :

1- yes

2- no

peace with you .

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة *اسلامي عزي*

:p015::p015::p015:

wonderful and logical words !

:p012:

of course God can not have human ancestors !
but your holy scriptures says the opposite ...???!!! :p016:
the supposed God ( Jesus) had an address ( Nazareth), a Profession( Carpenter) , and ancestors !
below the genealogy of the Jesus (the supposed God) :

MAT 1 :


ملف مرفق 13752




i' think the answer is very easy :

1- yes

2- no

peace with you .

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Of course they are logical words. That is because they are true, but how do you figure the Bible says the opposite? Where does it say God has human genealogy? Jesus is not the God (the father). God is spirit and not flesh and blood. Jesus is His (God's) word incarnate; this makes Him more than just a mere prophet. It is sinful to say Jesus is the same as any other prophet when Jesus is a prophet's message. Jesus is not a messenger; He is the message of God. If a prophet doesn't convey that message, he is not leading people to truth. Jesus is the truth. he is also the way and the life. He doesn't show the way he is the way and truth; no other prophet could claim such a thing.
I have a question for you; why do Muslims worship Muhammad? I know they say they don't, but their deep reverence for him says differently, IMO. He is and must be mentioned with Allah in all things. To obey him is to obey Allah. Allah says you must submit to all he says at all times and never disagree with him.

Allah cannot save you without Muhammad. Surah 9: 29 puts Muhammad on equal footing to Allah. You must believe in God; I do, and forbid what He forbids; I do, but also what Muhammad forbids, I don't. You must mention or associate Muhammad with Allah in the second part of the shahada and Allah mentions your need to obey all that Muhammad says and what Allah says. Allah cannot operate independent of Muhammad from what I can understand from the Quran and the hadiths. Why do they tell us Christians we associate Jesus with God. We don't believe God has an associate or partner. We just Believe Jesus is His word incarnate.