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    CHRIST IN ISLAM

    By Ahmed Deedat
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    CHAPTER 1 : CHRISTIAN MUSLIM RESPONSES

    DEBATE ON TV
    at the end of the debate - "Christianity and Islam" - which appeared on
    the SABC-TV program "cross (+) questions" on Sunday 5th June 1983, the
    chairman, Mr. Bill Chalmers commented:
    "i think it can be said from this discussion that there is ,at present,
    somewhat more accommodation on the Islamic side for the founder of
    Christianity than there is on the Christian side for the founder of Islam.
    what the significance of that is, we leave it to you, the viewer, to
    determine, but i do think you will agree that it is a good thing that we
    are talking together." "bill" as he is popularly addressed, without any
    formalities, on all his programs, by all his panelists, is extremely
    charming and stupendous in his humility. he is a picture of what the
    holy quran portrays of a good Christian:

    "...and nearest among them in love
    to the believers wilt thou find
    those who say, "we are Christians":
    because among these are men devoted to learning
    and men who have renounced the world.
    and they are not arrogant."
    holy quran 5:58

    JESUS - HIS STATUS
    were the Muslims on the panel, trying to placate the viewers out of
    policy, deceit or diplomacy ? nothing of the kind! they were only arti-
    culating what god almighty had commanded them to say in the holy quran.
    as Muslim they had no choice. they had said in so many words - "we Mus-
    lims believe, that Jesus was one of the mightiest messengers of god,
    that he was the Christ, that he was born miraculously - without any male
    intervention (which many modern-day Christians do not believe today),
    that he gave life to the dead by god's permission, and that he healed
    those born blind and the lepers by god's permission. in fact no Muslim
    is a Muslim if he does not believe in Jesus!"

    PLEASANT SURPRISE
    over 90% of the people who witnessed this debate must have been pleasantly,
    but sceptically, surprised. they might have not believed their ears.
    they must have surmised that the Muslims were playing to the gallery-that
    they were trying to curry favour with their fellow Christian countrymen;
    that if the Muslims would say a few good words about Jesus, then in
    reciprocation the Christians might say a few good words about muhummed (may
    the peace and the blessings of god be upon all his righteous servants-
    like Moses, Jesus, muhummed ); that i scratch your back and you scratch
    my back - which would be a sham or hypocrisy.

    HATE CULTIVATED
    we cannot blame the Christians for their scepticism. they have been so
    programmed for centuries. they were trained to think the worst of the ma
    muhummed (pbuh) and his religion. how aptly did Thomas Carlyle say about
    his Christian brethren over a hundred and fifty years ago - "the lies
    which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (muhummed) are
    disgraceful to ourselves only." we Muslims are partly responsible for this
    staggering ignorance of the 1,200,000,000 Christians of the world. we have not
    done anything substantial to remove the cobwebs.

    OCEAN OF CHRISTIANITY
    south Africa is an ocean of Christianity. if Libya boasts the highest
    percentage of Muslims on the continent of Africa, then the republic of
    south Africa would also be entitled to boast the highest percentage of
    Christians. in this ocean of Christianity - the R. S. A. - the Muslim is
    barely 2% of the total population. we are a voteless minority-numerically
    we count for nothing; politically, we count for nothing, and economica-
    lly, one white man, as Oppenheimer, could buy out the whole lot of us,
    lock, stock and barrel.

    so, if we had feigned to appease, we might be excused. but no! we must
    proclaim our master's will; we must declare the truth, whether we liked
    it or not. in the words of Jesus (pbuh): "seek ye the truth, and the
    truth shall set you free" - (john 9:32).


    CHAPTER 2: JESUS IN THE QURAN

    CHRISTIANS UNAWARE
    the Christian does not know that the true spirit of charity which the
    Muslim displays, always, towards Jesus and his mother Mary spring from
    the fountainhead of his faith- the holy quran. he does not know that the
    Muslim does not take the holy name of Jesus, in his own language, without
    saying hazrat Eesa (meaning revered Jesus) or Eesa alai-hiss-salaam i.e.
    ( Jesus peace be upon him).

    every time the Muslim mentions the name Jesus (pbuh) without these words
    of respect, he would be considered disrespectful, uncouth or barbaric.
    the Christian does not know that in the holy quran Jesus (pbuh) is men-
    tioned by name five times (5x) more than the number of times the prophet
    of Islam is mentioned in the book of god. to be exact - twenty five time
    as against five. for example:

    "..we gave Jesus
    the son of Mary
    clear signs and
    strengthened him
    with the holy spirit"
    holy quran 2:87

    "..o Mary!
    god giveth thee
    glad tidings
    of a word from him:
    his name will be
    Christ Jesus, the son of Mary.."
    holy quran 3:45

    "..Christ Jesus
    the son of Mary
    was (no more than)
    an apostle of god.."
    holy quran 4:171

    "..and in their (the previous prophets')
    footsteps we sent
    Jesus the son of Mary.."
    holy quran 5:49

    "and Zakariya and john,
    and Jesus and Elias:
    all in the ranks
    of the righteous:"
    holy quran 6:85

    JESUS - HIS TITLES
    though Jesus is mentioned by name in twenty-five places in the holy quran
    he is also addressed with respect as:"ibne Maryam" - son of Mary;as Masih
    (Heb) messiah - translated as Christ; "abd-ullah" servant of Allah; "rasul
    -ullah" - messenger of Allah.

    he is spoken of as "the word of god", as "the spirit of god", as a "sign
    of god", and numerous other epithets of honour spread over fifteen
    different chapters. the holy quran honours this mighty messenger of god, and
    the Muslims have not fallen short over the past fourteen hundred years i
    doing the same. there is not a single disparaging remark in the entire
    quran to which even the most jaundiced among the Christians can take
    exception.

    "EESA" LATINIZED TO JESUS
    the holy quran refers to Jesus as "Eesa", and this name is used more
    times than any other title, because this was his "Christian" name. actually,
    his proper name was "Eesa" (Arabic), or "Esau". (Hebrew); classical
    "Yeheshua", which the Christian nations of the west latinized as Jesus.
    neither the "j" nor the second "s" in the name Jesus is to be found in
    the original tongue - they are not found in the Semitic languages.

    the word is very simply - "e s a u" - a very common Jewish name, used
    more than sixty times in the very first booklet alone of the bible, in the
    part called "genesis". there was at least one "Jesus" sitting on the"bench"
    at the trial of Jesus before the Sanhedrin. Josephus the Jewish historian
    mentions some twenty five Jesus' in his "book of antiquities". the
    new testament speaks of "bar-Jesus"- a magician and a sorcerer, a false
    prophet (act 13:6); and also "Jesus-Justus" - a Christian missionary,
    a contemporary of Paul (Colossians 4:11). these are distinct from Jesus
    the son of Mary. transforming "Esau" to (j)esu(s) - Jesus - makes it
    unique. this unique (?) name has gone out of currency among the Jews and
    the Christians from the 2nd century after Christ. among the Jews, because
    it came to be the proper name of their god(?) - their god incarnate. the
    Muslim will not hesitate to name his son - "Eesa" - because it is an
    honoured name, the name of a righteous servant of the lord.

    MANY REFERENCES
    at the end of the most popular translation of the holy quran in English,
    i.e. by A. Yusuf Ali , there is a very comprehensive index. while browsing
    through (3), we will discover, on page 1837,
    i.e.
    Jesus, a righteous prophet, vi.85;
    birth, iii. 45:47; xix. 22-33;
    apostle to Israel, iii. 49-51;
    disciples, iii. 52-53; v.114-118
    taken up, iii. 55-58; iv.157-159;
    like Adam, iii.59;
    not crucified, iv.157;
    no more than apostle, iv.171; v.78;
    xliii 59, 63-64;
    not god, v.19,75;
    sent with gospel, v.49;
    not son of god, ix.30;
    message and miracles, v.113; xix.30-33;
    prays for table of viands, v.117;
    taught no false worship, v.119-121;
    disciples declare themselves Muslims, v.114;
    mission limited, n.1861 to xiii.38;
    followers have compassion and mercy, lvii.27:
    disciples as god's helpers, lxi.14;
    as a sign, xxiii. 50; xliii.61;
    prophesied Ahmed, lxi.6.

    CHAPTER 3 : MOTHER AND SON

    MARY HONOURED
    the second above mentioned topic - "his birth" - are described in two
    places - sura 3 and sura 19. reading from the beginning of his birth, on
    page 134 of the translation under reference, we come across the story of
    Mary, and the esteemed position which she occupies in the house of Islam
    before the actual annunciation of the birth of Jesus is given:

    behold!
    the angels said:
    "o Mary!
    god hath chosen thee
    and purified thee-
    chosen thee
    above the women of all nations."

    holy quran 3:42

    "chosen thee above the women of all nations." such an honour is not be b
    found given to Mary even in the Christian bible! the verse continue:

    "o Mary!
    worship thy lord devoutly:
    prostrate thyself,
    and bow down (in prayer)
    with those who bow down."
    holy quran 3:43
    divine revelation
    what is the source of this beautiful and sublime recitation which,in its
    original Arabic, moves men to ecstacy and tears? verse 44 below explains

    this is part of the tidings
    of the things unseen,
    which we reveal unto thee
    (o apostle!) by inspiration:
    thou wast not
    with them
    when they cast lots with arrows,
    as to which of them
    should be charged
    with the care of Mary:
    nor wast thou
    with them
    when they disputed (the point).
    holy quran 3:44

    MARY'S BIRTH
    the story is that the maternal grandmother of Jesus, Hannah, had hitherto
    been barren. she poured out her heart to god: if only god will grant her
    child, she would surely dedicate such a child for the service of god in
    the temple.

    ANTI-CLIMAX
    god granted her prayer and Mary was born. she was disappointed. she was
    yearning for a son, but instead she delivered a daughter; and in no way
    is the female like the male, for what she had in mind. what was she to
    do? she had made a vow to god. she waited for Mary to be big enough to
    fend for herself.

    when the time came, Hannah took her darling daughter to the temple, to
    hand over for temple services. every priest was clamouring to be the god
    father of this lovely child. they cast lots with arrows for her - like
    the tossing of the coin - head or tail ? eventually she fell to the lot
    of Zakariya, but not without a dispute.

    THE SOURCE OF HIS MESSAGE
    this was the story. but where did muhummed (pbuh) get this knowledge
    from? he was an ummi (unlettered). he did not know how to read or write.
    he is made by god almighty to answer this very question in the verse
    above, by saying that it was all "by divine inspiration". "no!", says the
    controversialist. "this is muhummed's own concoction. he copied his reve-
    lations from the Jews and Christians. He plagiarized it. he forged it."

    knowing full-well, and believing as we do, that the whole quran is the
    veritable word of god, we will nevertheless agree, for the sake of argu-
    ment, with the enemies of muhummed (pbuh) for a moment, that he wrote it
    we can now expect some cooperation from the unbeliever.

    ask him, "have you any qualms in agreeing that muhummed (pbuh) was an
    Arab?" only an opinionated fool will hesitate to agree. in that case
    there is no sense in pursuing any discussion. cut short the talk. close
    the book!

    with the man of reason, we proceed. "that this Arab, in the first ins-
    tance, was addressing other Arabs. he was not talking to Indian Muslims,
    Chinese Muslims, or Nigerian Muslims. he was addressing his own people -
    the Arabs. whether they agreed with him or not, he told them in the most
    sublime form - words that were seared into the hearts and minds of his
    listeners that Mary the mother of Jesus - a jewess - was chosen above the
    women of all nations. not his own mother, nor his wife nor his daughter,
    nor any other Arab woman, but a jewess! can one explain this? because to
    everyone his own mother or wife, or daughter would come before any other
    women.
    why would the prophet of Islam honour a woman from his opposition! and a
    jewess at that! belonging to a race which had been looking down upon his
    people for three thousand years? just as they still look down upon their
    Arab brethren today.

    SARAH AND HAGAR
    the Jews get their cock-eyed racism from their holy bible, where they are
    told that their father, Abraham, had two wives - Sarah and Hagar. they
    say that they are the children of Abraham through Sarah his legitimate
    wife; that their Arab brethren have descended through Hagar, a "bond-
    woman", and that as such, the Arabs are an inferior breed. (in fact,
    Hagar was not a bond-woman but an Egyptian princess )

    will anyone please explain the anomaly as to why muhummed (pbuh) (if he
    is the author) chose this jewess for such high honour? the answer is
    simple - he had no choice - he had no right to speak of his own desire. "it
    is no less than an inspiration sent down to him." (h.q.53:4)

    SURA MARYAM
    there is a chapter in the holy quran, named sura Maryam "chapter Mary"
    (xix) named in honour of Mary the mother of Jesus Christ (pbuh); again,
    such an honour is not to be found given to Mary in the Christian bible.
    out of the 66 books of the Protestants and 73 of the roman Catholics,
    not one is named after Mary or her son. you will find books named after
    Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul and two score more obscure names,
    but not a single one is that of Jesus or Mary!

    if muhummed (pbuh) was the author of the holy quran, then he would not
    have failed to include in it with Maryam, the mother of Jesus, his own
    mother - Amina, his dear wife - Khadija, or his beloved daughter-Fatima.
    but no!no! this can never be. the quran is not his handiwork!

    CHAPTER 4 : THE GOOD NEWS

    behold! the angels said:
    "o Mary!
    god giveth thee
    glad tidings
    of a word from him:
    his name will be
    Christ Jesus
    the son of Mary
    held in honour
    in this world
    and the hereafter
    and (of the company of)
    those nearest to god;
    holy quran 3:45

    "nearest to god," not physically nor geographically, but spiritually.
    compare this with - "and (Jesus) sat on the right hand of god."(mark -
    16:19). the bulk of Christendom has misunderstood this verse as well as
    many others in the bible. they imagine the father (god) sitting on a
    throne - a glorified chair - and his "son", Jesus, sitting on his right
    hand side. can you conjure up the picture? if you do, you have strayed
    from the true knowledge of god. he is no old father Christmas. he is a
    spiritual being, beyond the imagination of the mind of man. he exists.
    he is real, but he is not like anything we can think of, or imagine. in
    eastern languages "right hand" meant a place of honour, which the holy
    quran more fittingly describes as - "in the company of those nearest to
    god."

    the above verse confirms that Jesus is the Christ, and that he is the
    word which god bestowed upon Mary. again, the Christian reads into these
    words, a meaning which they do not carry. they equate the word "Christ"
    with the idea of a god incarnate; and the word from god to be god!.

    CHRIST NOT A NAME
    the word Christ is derived from the Hebrew word messiah, Arabic-masih.
    root word m-a-s-a-h-a, meaning to rub, to massage, to anoint. priests an
    kings were anointed when being consecrated to their offices. but in its
    translated, Grecian form "Christ", it seems unique:befitting Jesus only.

    the Christian has a knack of transmuting baser metals into shining gold.
    what he is wont to do is to translate names into his own language like
    "Cephas" to Peter, "messiah" to Christ. how does he do that? very easily
    messiah in Hebrew means anointed. the Greek word for anointed is "chris-
    tos". just lop off the 'os' from Christos and you are left with Christ.
    now change the little 'c' to a capital 'c', and "hey, presto!" he has
    created a unique (?) name! Christos means anointed, and anointed means
    appointed in its religious connotation. Jesus (pbuh) was appointed (anointed)
    at his baptism by john the baptist, as god's messenger.every prophet
    of god is so anointed or appointed. the holy bible is replete with the
    "anointed" ones. in the original Hebrew - made a "messiah". let us keep
    to the English translation - "anointed." not only were prophets and pri-
    ests and kings anointed (Christos-ed), but horns, and cherubs and lamp-
    posts also.

    I am the god of beth-el, where you anointed a pillar.....
    genesis 31:13

    if the priest that is anointed do sin....
    leviticus 4:3

    and Moses.anointed the tabernacle and all things that was therein...
    leviticus 8:10

    ...the lord shall....exalt the horn of his anointed
    1 Samuel 2:10

    thus saith the lord to his anointed to cyrus....
    isaiah 45:1

    thou art the anointed cherub....
    ezekiel 28:14

    there are a hundred more such references in the holy bible. every time you
    come across the word anointed in your English bible, you can take it that
    that word would be Christos in the Greek translations, and if you take
    the same liberty with the word that the Christians have done, you will
    have - Christ cherub, Christ cyrus, Christ priest and Christ pillar, etc.

    SOME TITLES EXCLUSIVE
    although, every prophet of god is an anointed one of god - a messiah,
    the title "masih" or "messiah" or its translation "Christ" is exclusively
    reserved for Jesus, the son of Mary, in both Islam and in Christianity.
    this is not unusual in religion. there are certain other honorific title
    which may be applied to more than one prophet, yet being made exclusive
    to one by usage: like "rasul-lullah", meaning messenger of god, which title
    is applied to both Moses (19:51) and Jesus (61:6) in the holy quran.
    yet "rasul-lullah" has become synonymous only with the prophet of Islam
    among Muslims.

    every prophet is indeed a friend of god, but its Arabic equivalent "kha-
    lil-lullah" is exclusively associated with father Abraham. this does not
    mean that the others are not god's friends. "kalimul-lah" (one who spoke
    with god) is never used for anyone other than Moses, yet we believe that
    god spoke with all his messengers, including Jesus and muhummed (may the
    peace and blessings of god be upon all his servants). associating certain
    titles with certain personages only, does not make them exclusive or unique
    in any way. we honour all in varying terms.

    whilst the good news was being announced (verse 45 above) Mary was told
    that her unborn child will be called Jesus, that he would be the Christ,
    a "word" from god, and that.....

    "he shall
    speak to the people
    in childhood*
    and in maturity.
    and he shall be
    (of the company) of
    the righteous."
    holy quran 3:46

    * this prophecy found fulfillment within a very short time. we find this
    in sura Maryam below:

    at length she brought him
    (the babe) to her people,
    carrying him (in her arms).
    they said:"O Mary!
    truly an-amazing thing
    hast thou brought!
    O sister of Aaron
    thy father
    was not a man of evil
    nor thy mother a woman unchaste!"
    holy quran 19:27-28
    قال الله تعالى ( مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ رِجَالٌ صَدَقُوا مَا عَاهَدُوا اللَّهَ عَلَيْهِ فَمِنْهُم مَّن قَضَى نَحْبَهُ وَمِنْهُم مَّن يَنتَظِرُ وَمَا بَدَّلُوا تَبْدِيلًا ﴿23﴾ لِيَجْزِيَ اللَّهُ الصَّادِقِينَ بِصِدْقِهِمْ وَيُعَذِّبَ الْمُنَافِقِينَ إِن شَاء أَوْ يَتُوبَ عَلَيْهِمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا ﴿24﴾ الأحزاب

    إن الدخول في الإسلام صفقة بين متبايعين.. .الله سبحانه هو المشتري والمؤمن فيها هو البائع ، فهي بيعة مع الله ، لا يبقى بعدها للمؤمن شيء في نفسه ، ولا في ماله.. لتكون كلمة الله هي العليا ، وليكون الدين كله لله.


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    JEWS AMAZED
    there is no Joseph the carpenter here. the circumstances being peculiar,
    Mary the mother of Jesus had retired herself to some remote place in the
    east (h.q.19:16). after the birth of the child she returns.

    "the amazement of the people knew no bounds. in any case they were prepared
    to think the worst of her, as she had disappeared from her kin for
    some time. but now she comes, shamelessly parading a babe in her arms!
    how she had disgraced the house of Aaron, the fountain of priesthood!

    "sister of Aaron: Mary is reminded of her high lineage and the unexcep-
    tionable morals of her father and mother. how, they said, she had fallen
    and disgraced the name of her progenitors!

    "what could Mary do? how could she explain? would they, in their censorious
    mood accept her explanation? all she could do was to point to the
    child, who, she knew, was no ordinary child. and the child came to her
    rescue. by a miracle he spoke, defended his mother, and preached -to an
    unbelieving audience."
    A. Yusuf Ali, comments in his notes 2480-2482 on page 773
    of his translation.

    but she pointed to the babe.
    they said:
    "how can we talk
    to one
    who is a child in the cradle?"
    holy quran 19:23
    and by a miracle he spoke:

    he said: "i am indeed
    a servant of god:
    he hath given me revelation
    and made me a prophet;
    "and he hath
    made me blessed wheresoever i be,
    and he hath
    enjoined on me prayer
    and charity as long as i live
    "(he) hath made me
    kind to my mother,
    and not overbearing or miserable;
    "so peace is on me
    the day i was born,
    the day that i die,
    and the day
    that i shall be raised up to life (again)!"
    holy quran 19:24-33

    HIS FIRST MIRACLE(S)
    thus Jesus (pbuh) defended his mother from the grave calumny and innuen-
    does of her enemies. this is the very first miracle attributed to Jesus
    in the holy quran - that, he spoke as an infant from his mother's arms.
    contrast this with his first miracle in the Christian bible which occure
    when he was over thirty years of age:

    and the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother
    of Jesus was there:
    and both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.
    and when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, they
    have no wine.
    Jesus saith unto her, woman, what have i to do with thee? mine hour
    is not yet come.
    his mother saith unto the servants, whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.
    and there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the
    purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.
    Jesus saith unto them, fill the waterpots with water. and they filled
    them up to the brim.
    and he saith unto them, draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the
    feast. and they bare it.
    when the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and
    knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;)
    the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
    and saith unto him, every man at the beginning both set forth good wine;
    and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse:but thou hast kept
    the good wine until now.
    john 2:1-10

    since this miracle, wine has flowed like water in Christendom. many a
    fool reasons that what was good for his master is good enough for him.
    Jesus was no "kill-joy" they say. didn't he make good potent wine, that
    even those "well drunk", those whose senses had been dulled could make
    out the difference? - "that the best was kept for the last." this was no
    pure grape juice. it was the same w-i-n-e that, according to the Christi
    an bible, enabled the daughters of lot to seduce their father (genesis-
    19:32-33). it was the same w-i-n-e which the Christian is advised to
    eschew in Ephesians 5:18 - "and be not drunk with wine...."

    it is that innocent (?) 1% potency that eventually leads millions down
    into the gutter. America has 10 million drunkards in the midst of 70 million
    "born-again" Christians! the Americans call their drunkards -
    "problem drinkers". in South Africa, they are called "alcoholics" -
    drunkard is too strong a word for people to stomach.

    but the prime minister of Zambia, Dr.Kenneth Kaunda, does not hesitate
    to call a spade a spade. he says, "i am not prepared to lead nation of
    drunkards" - referring to his own people who drink intoxicants.

    whether the water "blushed" or not "seeing" Jesus, we cannot blame him
    or his disciples for the drinking habits of his contemporaries. for he
    had truly opined, "i have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot
    bear them now" (john 16:12). mankind had not reached the stage of recei-
    ving the whole truth of Islam. did he not also say - "you cannot put new
    wine into old bottles"? (Matthew 9:17)

    "MOTHER" OR "WOMAN"?
    "according" to St. John, in the fourth verse above, describing the marri-
    age feast at Cana, we are told that Jesus (pbuh) behaved insolently to-
    wards his mother. he calls her "woman," and to rub more salt into the
    wound he is made to say - "what have i to do with thee?" what connection
    is there between you and me, or what have i got to do with you? could he
    have forgotten that this very "woman" had carried him for nine months, and
    perhaps suckled him for 2 years, and had borne endless insults and inju-
    ries on account of him? is she not his mother ? is there no word in his
    language for "mother"?

    strange as it may seem, that while the missionaries boast about their
    master's humility, meekness and long-suffering - they call him the"prince
    of peace" and they sing hat - "he was led to the slaughter like a lamb,
    and like a sheep who before his shearer is dumb, he opened not his mouth
    yet they proudly record in the same breath, that he was every ready with
    invectives for the elders of his race, and was always itching for a show
    down i.e. if their records are true:-

    "ye hypocrites!"
    "ye wicked and adulterous generation!"
    "ye whited sephulcres!"
    "ye generation of vipers!" and now to his mother -
    "woman....."

    JESUS DEFENDED
    muhummed (pbuh) the messenger of god, is made to absolve Jesus (pbuh)
    from the false charges and calumnies of his enemies.

    "and he (god almighty)
    hath made me (Jesus) kind
    to my mother,
    and not overbearing or miserable"
    holy quran 19:32

    on receiving the good news of the birth of a righteous son (end of h.q.
    3:46 ), Mary responds:

    she said:
    "o my lord!
    how shall i have a son
    when no man
    hath touched me?"

    the angel says in reply:

    he said"
    "even so: god createth
    what he willeth:
    when he hath
    decreed a plan,
    he but saith to it,
    'be,' and it is!
    "and god will teach him
    the book and wisdom,
    the law
    and the gospel,
    holy quran 3:47-48

    CHAPTER 5 : QURANIC AND BIBLICAL VERSIONS

    MEETING THE REVEREND
    one day, i was visiting the "bible house" in Johannesburg, south Africa.
    whilst browsing through the stacks of bibles and religious books, i
    picked up an Indonesian bible and had just taken in hand a Greek/English
    new testament - a large, expensive volume. i had not realized that i
    was being observed by the supervisor of the bible house. casually, he
    walked up to me. perhaps my bread and my Muslim headgear were an attrac-
    tion and a challenge? he inquired about my interest in that costly volu-
    me. I explained that as a student of comparative religion, i had need for
    such a book. he invited me to have tea with him in his office. it was
    very kind of him and i accepted.

    over the cup of tea, i explained to him the Muslim belief in Jesus. I
    explained to him the very high position that Jesus (pbuh) occupied in the
    house of Islam. he seemed sceptical about what i said. i was amazed at
    his seeming ignorance, because only retired reverend gentlemen can be-
    come supervisors of bible houses in south Africa. i began reciting from
    verse 42 of sura 3 -first in Arabic then in English

    behold!
    the angels said:
    "o Mary!
    Allah hath chosen thee...

    i wanted the reverend to listen, not only to the meaning of the quran,
    but also to the music of its cadences when the original Arabic was reci-
    ted. Rev. Dunkers (for that was his name) sat back and listened with rapt
    attention to Allah's kalaam (god's word). when i reached the end of verse
    49, the reverend commented that the quranic message was like that of his
    own bible. he said, he saw no difference between what he believed as a
    Christian, and what i had read to him. i said: "that was true". if he had
    come across these verses in the English language alone without their
    Arabic equivalent, side by side, he would not have been able to guess in a
    hundred years that he was reading the holy quran. if he were a Protestant
    he would have thought that he was reading the roman catholic version, if
    he had not seen one, or the Jehovah's witness version or the Greek orthodox
    version, or the hundred and one other versions that he might not have
    seen; but he would never have guessed that he was reading the holy quran
    the Christian would be reading here, in the quran, everything he wanted
    to hear about Jesus, but in a most noble, elevated and sublime language.
    he could not help being moved by it.

    in these eight terse verses from 42 to 49 we are told:

    (a) that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a virtuous woman, and honoured
    above the women of all nations.
    (b) that all that was being said was god's own revelation to muhummed
    (c) that Jesus was a "word" from god.
    (d) that he was the Christ that the Jews were waiting for.
    (e) that god will empower this Jesus to perform miracles even in infancy
    (f) that Jesus was born miraculously, without any male intervention.
    (g) that god will vouchsafe him revelation.
    (h) that he will give life to the dead by god's permission, and that he
    will heal those born blind and the lepers by god's permission, etc.etc.

    CHALK AND CHEESE
    the most fervent Christian cannot take exception to a single statement
    or word here. but the difference between the biblical and the quranic
    narratives is that between "chalk and cheese"!

    "to me they are identical, what is the difference?" the reverend asked.

    i know that in their essentials both the stories agree in their details,
    but when we scrutinize them closely we will discover that the difference
    between them is staggering.

    now compare the miraculous conception as announced in verse 47 of the
    holy quran with what the holy bible says:

    "now the birth of Jesus Christ was in this wise: when as his mother Mary
    was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, (as husband and wife)
    she was found with child of the holy ghost."
    Matthew 1:18

    MASTER DRAMATIZER
    the eminent Billy Graham from the united states of America dramatized
    this verse in front of 40 000 people in king park, Durban - with his in-
    dex finger sticking out and swinging his outstretched arm from right to
    left, he said, "and the holy ghost came and impregnated Mary!" on the
    other hand st. Luke tells us the very same thing but less crudely. He says
    that when the annunciation was made, Mary was perturbed. her natural
    reaction was -

    "...how shall this be, seeing i know not a man?" -
    meaning sexually.

    the quranic narrative is:

    she said:
    "o my lord!
    how shall i have a son
    when no man hath
    touched me?" -meaning sexually.
    holy quran 3:47


    in essence there is no difference between these two statements "seeing i
    know not a man" and "when no man hath touched me". both the quotations
    have an identical meaning. it is simply a choice of different words mea-
    ning the same thing. but the respective replies to Mary's plea in the two
    books (the quran and the bible) are revealing.

    THE BIBLICAL VERSION

    says the bible:
    and the angel answered and said unto her, "the holy ghost shall come
    upon thee, and the power of the highest shall overshadow thee"
    Luke 1:35

    can't you see that you are going the atheist, the sceptic, the agnostic
    stick to beat you with? they may well ask- "how did the holy ghost come
    upon Mary?" "how did the highest over shadow her? we know that literally
    it does not mean that: that it was an immaculate conception, but the language
    used here, is distasteful-gutter language-you agree!? now contrast
    this with the language of the quran: the quranic version

    he said:(the angel says in reply)
    "even so: Allah createth
    what he willeth:
    when he hath decreed a plan,
    he but saith to it,
    'be',
    and it is!"
    holy quran 3:47

    this is the Muslim concept of the birth of Jesus. for god to create a
    Jesus, without a human father, he merely has to will it. if he wants to
    create a million Jesus' without fathers or mothers, he merely has to will
    them into existence. he does not have to take seeds and transfer them,
    like men or animals - by contact or artificial insemination. he wills
    everything into being by his word of command "be" and "it is".

    there is nothing new in what i am telling you, i reminded the reverend. I
    is in the very first book of your holy bible - genesis 1:3 "and god said
    ..." what did he say? he said - "be" and "it was!" he did not have to
    articulate the words. this is our way of understanding the word 'be'-that
    he willed everything into being.

    CHOICE FOR HIS DAUGHTER
    "between these two versions of the birth of Jesus (pbuh) - the quranic
    version and the biblical version - which would you prefer to give your
    daughter?" i asked the supervisor of the bible house. he bowed his head
    down in humility and admitted - "the quranic version."

    how can "a forgery" or "an imitation" (as it is alleged of the quran) be
    better than the genuine, the original (as it is claimed for the bible)?
    it can never be, unless this revelation to muhummed (pbuh) is what it,
    itself, claims to be viz. the pure and holy word of god! there are a hundred
    different tests that the unprejudiced seeker after truth can apply
    to the holy quran and it will qualify with flying colours to being a
    massage from on high.

    LIKE ADAM
    does the miraculous birth of Jesus make him a god or a "begotten" son of
    god? no! says the holy quran:

    the similitude
    of Jesus
    before god
    is that of Adam;
    he created him
    from dust,
    then said to him:
    'be':and he was.
    holy quran 3:59

    "after a description of the high position which Jesus occupies as a pro-
    phet, in the preceding verses) we have a repudiation of the dogma that h
    was god, or the son of god, or anything more than man. if it is said that
    he was born without a human father, Adam was also so born. indeed Adam
    was born without either a human father or mother. as far as our physical
    bodies are concerned they are mere dust.
    in god's sight Jesus was as dust just as Adam was or humanity is. the
    greatness of Jesus arose from the divine command "be". for after that he
    was - more than dust - a great spiritual leader and teacher."
    A. Yusuf Ali's note 398 to verse 59 above.

    the logic of it is that, if being born without a male parent entitles
    Jesus to being equated with god, then, Adam would have a greater right
    to such honour, and this no Christian would readily concede. thus, the
    Muslim is made to repudiate the Christian blasphemy.

    further, if the Christian splits hairs by arguing that Adam was "created
    from the dust of the ground, whereas Jesus was immaculately "begotten"in
    the womb of Mary, then let us remind him that, even according to his own
    false standards. there is yet another person greater than Jesus, in his
    own bible. who is this superman?

    PAUL'S INNOVATION
    "for this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high god...."
    "without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginn-
    ing of days, nor end of life..."
    Hebrews 7:1&3

    here is a candidate for divinity itself, for only god almighty could
    possess these qualities. Adam had a beginning (in the garden), Jesus had
    a beginning (in the stable); Adam had an end and, claim the Christians,
    so had Jesus "and he gave up the ghost". but where is Melchisedec? per-
    haps he is hibernating somewhere like Rip Van Winkel.

    and what is this "Hebrews"? it is the name of one of the books of the
    holy bible, authored by the gallant st. Paul, the self appointed thirteenth
    apostle of Christ. Jesus had twelve apostles, but one of them (Judas) had
    the devil in him. so the vacancy had to be filled, because of the "twelve"
    thrones in heaven which had to be occupied by his disciples to judge the
    children of Israel (Luke 22:30).

    Saul was a renegade Jew, and the Christians changed his name to "Paul",
    probably because "Saul" sounds Jewish. this Paul made such a fine mess
    of the teachings of Jesus (pbuh) that he earned for himself the second-
    most -coveted position of "the most influential men of history" in the
    monumental work of Michael H. Hart. "the 100" or "the top hundred" or the
    "greatest hundred in history". Paul outclasses even Jesus because, according
    to Michael hart, Paul was the real founder of present-day Christia-
    nity. the honour of creating Christianity had to be shared between Paul
    and Jesus, and Paul won because he wrote more books of the bible than
    any other single author, whereas Jesus did not write a single word.

    Paul needed no inspiration to write his hyperboles here and in the rest
    of his epistles. did not Hitler's minister of propaganda - Goebbles -
    say "the bigger the lie the more likely it is to be believed"? but the
    amazing thing about this exaggeration is that no Christian seems to have
    read it. every learned man to whom i have shown this verse to, seemed to
    be seeing it for the first time. they appear dumbfounded, as described
    by the fitting words of Jesus:-

    "...seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they
    understand." Matthew 13:13

    the holy quran also contains a verse which fittingly describes this well
    cultivated sickness -

    deaf,
    dumb and blind,
    they will not return (to the path).
    holy quran 2:18

    THE SONS OF GOD
    the Muslim takes strong exception to the Christian dogma that "Jesus is
    the only begotten son, begotten not made". this is what the Christian is
    made to repeat from childhood in his catechism. i have asked learned -
    Christians, again and again as to what they are really trying to emphasize,
    when they say "begotten not made".

    they know that according to their own God-given (?!) records, god has
    sons by the tons:

    "....Adam, which was the son of god."
    Luke 3:38
    "that the sons of god saw the daughters of men that they were fair...

    "and when the sons of god came in unto the daughters of men, and they
    bare children to them...."
    genesis 6:2&4
    "...Israel is my son, even my firstborn:"
    exodus 4:22
    "...for i (god) and a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn."
    Jeremiah 31:9

    "...the lord hath said unto me, (David) thou art my son: this day have
    i begotten thee."
    psalms 2:7

    "for as many as are led by the spirit of god, they are the sons of god."
    romans 8:14
    قال الله تعالى ( مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ رِجَالٌ صَدَقُوا مَا عَاهَدُوا اللَّهَ عَلَيْهِ فَمِنْهُم مَّن قَضَى نَحْبَهُ وَمِنْهُم مَّن يَنتَظِرُ وَمَا بَدَّلُوا تَبْدِيلًا ﴿23﴾ لِيَجْزِيَ اللَّهُ الصَّادِقِينَ بِصِدْقِهِمْ وَيُعَذِّبَ الْمُنَافِقِينَ إِن شَاء أَوْ يَتُوبَ عَلَيْهِمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا ﴿24﴾ الأحزاب

    إن الدخول في الإسلام صفقة بين متبايعين.. .الله سبحانه هو المشتري والمؤمن فيها هو البائع ، فهي بيعة مع الله ، لا يبقى بعدها للمؤمن شيء في نفسه ، ولا في ماله.. لتكون كلمة الله هي العليا ، وليكون الدين كله لله.


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    Default مشاركة: CHRIST IN ISLAM By Ahmed Deedat

    [align=left]can't you see that in the language of the Jew, every righteous person,
    every ton, dick and harry who followed the will and plan of god, was a
    son of god. it was a metaphorical descriptive term, commonly used among
    the Jews. the Christian agrees with this reasoning, but goes on to say -
    "but Jesus was not like that". Adam was made by god. every living thing
    was made by god; he is the Lord, Cherisher and Sustainer of all. metaphorically
    speaking therefore god is the father of all. but Jesus was the
    "begotten" son of god, not a created son of god?

    BEGOTTEN MEANS "SIRED"
    in my forty years of practical experience in talking to learned Christi-
    ans, not a single one has opened his mouth to hazard an explanation of
    the phrase - "begotten not made". it had to be an American who dared to
    explain. he said, "it means, sired by god." "what?" i exploded. "sired-
    by god?" - "no, no,"he said, "i am only trying to explain the meaning,
    i do not believe that god really sired a son."

    the sensible Christian says that the words do not literally mean what
    they say. then why do you say it? why are you creating unnecessary con-
    flict between the 1,200,000,000 Christians and a thousand million Muslim
    of the world in making senseless statements?

    REASON FOR OBJECTION
    the Muslim takes exception to the word "begotten", because begetting is
    an animal act, belonging to the lower animal functions of sex. how can w
    attribute such a lowly capacity to god? metaphorically we are all the
    children of god - the good and the bad - and Jesus (pbuh) would be clo-
    ser to being the son of god than any one of us, because he would be more
    faithful to god than any one of us, because he would be more faithful to
    god than any one of us can ever be. from that point of view he is
    preeminently the son of god.

    although this pernicious word "begotten" has now unceremoniously been
    thrown out of the "most accurate" version of the bible - the R. S. V. its
    ghost still lingers on in the Christian mind, both black and white. through
    its insidious brainwashing the white man is made to feel superior to
    his black Christian brother of the same church and denomination. and in
    turn, the black man is given a permanent inferiority complex through this
    dogma.

    BRAIN-WASHED INFERIORITY
    the human mind can't help reasoning that since the "begotten son" of an
    African will look like an African, and that of a china man as a Chinese,
    and that of an Indian like an Indian: so the begotten son of god aught
    naturally to look like god. billions of beautiful pictures and replicas
    of this "only begotten son"(?) of god are put in peoples hands. he looks
    like a European with blonde hair, blue eyes and handsome features - like
    the one i saw in the "king of kings" or "the day of triumph" or "Jesus o
    Nazareth" remember Jeffrey Hunter? the "SAVIOUR" of the Christian is more
    like a German than a Jew with his polly nose. so naturally, if the son i
    a white man, the father would also be a white man (god?). hence the dar-
    ker skinned races of the earth subconsciously have the feeling of infe-
    riority ingrained in their souls as god's step-children. no amount to
    face-creams, skin-lighteners and hair-straighteners will erase the infe-
    riority.

    GOD IS SPIRIT
    god is neither black nor white. he is a spiritual being, beyond the ima-
    gination of the mind of man. break the mental shackles of a Caucasian -
    (white) man-god, and you have broken the shackles of a permanent inferiority.
    but intellectual bondages are harder to shatter: the slave himself
    fights to retain them.

    CHAPTER 6 : ANSWER TO CHRISTIAN DILEMMAS

    "Christ in Islam" is really Christ in the quran: and the holy quran has
    something definite to say about every abberation of Christianity. the
    quran absolves Jesus (pbuh) from all the false charges of his enemies as
    well as the misplaced infatuation of his followers. his enemies allege
    that he blasphemed against god by claiming divinity. his misguided followers
    claim that he did avow divinity, but that was not blasphemy (Kufr)
    because he was god. what does the quran say?

    addressing both the Jews and the Christians, Allah says:-

    o people of the book!
    commit no excesses
    in your religion:
    nor say of god
    aught but the truth.
    Christ Jesus
    the son of Mary
    was (no more than)
    an apostle of god,
    and his word,
    which he
    bestowed on Mary,
    and a spirit
    proceeding from him:
    so believe in god
    and his messengers...
    holy quran 4:171


    GOING TO EXTREMES

    "o people of the book:" is a very respectful title with which the Jews
    and the Christians are addressed in the holy quran. in other words, Allah
    is saying - "o learned people!" "o people with a scripture!" according
    to their own boast, the Jews and the Christians prided themselves over
    the Arabs, who had no scripture before the quran. as a learned people,
    Allah pulls up both the contending religionists for going to either ex-
    tremes as regards the personality of Christ.

    the Jews made certain insinuations about the legitimacy of Jesus(pbuh)
    and charged him of blasphemy by twisting his words. the Christians read
    other meanings into his words; wrench words out of their context to make
    him god.

    the modern-day Christian - the hot-gospeller - the bible thumper - uses
    harsher words and cruder approaches to win over a convert to his blasphemies.
    he says:
    (a) "either Jesus is god or a liar"
    (b) "either Jesus is god or a lunatic"
    (c) "either Jesus is god or an imposter"

    these are his words - words culled from Christian literature. since no
    man of charity, Muslim or otherwise, can condemn Christ so harshly as
    the Christian challenges him to do, perforce he must keep non-committal.
    he thinks he must make a choice between one or the other of these silly
    extremes. it does not occur to him that there is an alternative to this
    Christian conundrum.

    SENSIBLE ALTERNATIVE
    is it not possible that Jesus is simply what he claimed to be- a prophet
    like so many other prophets that passed away before him? even that he is
    one of the greatest of them - a mighty miracle worker, a great spiritual
    teacher and guide - the messiah! why only god or lunatic? is "lunacy" the
    opposite of "divinity" in Christianity? what is the antonym of god? will
    some clever Christian answer?

    the quran lays bare the true position of Christ in a single verse ,it say
    (1) that he was the son of a woman, Mary, and therefore a man;
    (2) but an apostle, a man with a mission from god, and therefore
    he is entitled to honour;
    (3) a word bestowed on Mary, for he was created by god's word "be"(kun),
    and he was; see holy quran 3:59.
    (4) a spirit proceeding from god, but not god: his life and mission were
    more limited than in the case of some other apostles, though we must pay
    equal honour to him as a man of god. the doctrines of trinity, equality
    with god, and sonship, are repudiated as blasphemies. god is independent
    of all needs and has no need of a son to manage his affairs. the gospel
    of john (whoever wrote it) has put a great deal of Alexandrain Gnostic
    mysticism round the doctrine of the word (Greek, Logos), but it is
    simply explained here, and our Sufis work on this explanation."
    A. Yusuf Ali's comment on verse 171 above.

    JESUS QUESTIONED
    reproduced below are verses 119 to 121 from Sura Maida (ch.5) depicting
    the scene of judgement day, when Allah will question Jesus (pbuh) regar-
    ding the misdirected zeal of his supposed followers in worshipping him
    and his mother: and his response-

    and behold! god will say:
    "o Jesus the son of Mary!
    didst thou say unto men,
    worship me and my mother
    as gods in derogation of god'?"
    he will say: "glory to thee!
    never could i say
    what i had no right
    (to say). had i said
    such a thing, thou wouldst
    indeed have known it.
    thou knowest what is
    in my heart, though i
    know not what is
    in time. for thou
    knowest in full
    all that is hidden.

    "never said i to them
    aught except what thou
    didst command me
    to say, to wit, 'worship
    god, my lord and your lord';
    and i was a witness
    over them whilst i dwelt
    amongst them; when thou
    didst take me up
    thou wast the watcher
    over them, and thou
    art a witness to all things.

    "if thou dost punish them,
    they are thy servants:
    if thou dost forgive them,
    thou art the exalted in power,
    the wise."
    holy quran 5:119-121

    CLAIMED NO DIVINITY
    if this is the statement of truth from the all-knowing, that"never did i
    say to them anything other than what i was commanded to say,that is wor-
    ship god, who is my lord and your lord", then how do the Christians jus-
    tify worshipping Jesus?

    there is not a single unequivocal statement throughout the bible, in all
    its 66 volumes of the Protestant versions, or in the 73 volumes of the
    roman catholic versions, where Jesus claims to be god or where he says -
    'worship me.' nowhere does he say that he and god almighty are one and
    the same person.

    the last phrase above - "one and the same person" tickles many a "hot-
    gospeller" and "bible-thumper," not excluding the doctor of divinity and
    the professor of theology. even the new converts to Christianity have
    memorized these verses. they are programmed like zombies to rattle off
    verses, out of context, upon which they can hang their faith. the words
    "are one" activates the mind by association of memories. "yes", say the
    Trinitarians - the worshippers of three gods in one god, and one god in
    three gods - "Jesus did claim to be god!" where?

    REVEREND AT THE TABLE
    i had taken rev. Morris D. D. and his wife, to lunch at the "golden pea-
    cock". while at the table, during the course of our mutual sharing of
    knowledge, the opportunity arose to ask, "where?" and without a murmur
    he quoted, "i and my father are one" - to imply that god and Jesus were
    one and the same person. that Jesus here claims to be god. the verse quoted
    was well known to me, but it was being quoted out of context. it did
    not carry the meaning that the doctor was imaging, so i asked him, "what
    is the context?"

    CHOKED ON "CONTEXT"
    the reverend stopped eating and began staring at me. i said, "why? don't
    you know the context?" - "you see, what you have quoted is the text, i
    want to know the context, the text that goes with it, before or after."
    here was an Englishman (Canadian), a paid-servant of the Presbyterian
    church, a doctor of divinity, and it appeared that i was trying to teach
    him English. of course he knew what "contest" meant. but like the rest o
    his compatriots, he had not studied the sense in which Jesus(pbuh) had
    uttered the words.

    in my forty years of experience, this test had been thrown at me hundred
    of times, but not a single learned Christian had ever attempted to hazard
    a guess as to its real meaning. they always start fumbling for their bibles.
    The doctor did not have one with him. when they do start going for
    their bibles, i stop them in their stride. "surely, you know what you are
    quoting?" "surely, you know your bible?" after reading this, i hope some
    "born-again" Christians will rectify this deficiency. but i doubt that m
    Muslim readers will ever come across one in their lifetime who could give
    them the context.

    WHAT IS THE CONTEXT?
    it is unfair on the part of the reverend, having failed to provide the
    context, then to ask me, "do you know the context?" "of course," i said.
    "then, what is it?" asked my learned friend. i said, "that which you have
    quoted is the text of john chapter 10, verse 30. to get at the context,
    we have to begin from verse 23 which reads:

    23 and Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.

    john, or whoever he was, who wrote his story, does not tell us the reason
    for Jesus tempting the devil by walking alone in the lion's den. for we
    do not expect the Jews to miss a golden opportunity to get even with
    Jesus. perhaps, he was emboldened by the manner in which he had literally
    whipped the Jews single-handed in the temple, and upset the tables of
    the money-changers at the beginning of his ministry (john 2:15).

    24 then came the Jews round about him. and said unto him, how long dost
    thou make us to doubt? if thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.

    they surrounded him. brandishing their fingers in his face, they began
    accusing him and provoking him; saying that he had not put forth his cl-
    aim plainly enough, clearly enough. that he was talking ambiguously. the
    were trying to work themselves into a frenzy to assault him. in fact,their
    real complaint was that they did not like his method of preaching-his
    invectives, the manner in which he condemned them for their formalism,
    their ceremonialism, their going for the letter of the law and forgetting
    the spirit. but Jesus could not afford to provoke them any further-there
    were too many and they were itching for a fight.

    discretion is the better part of valour. in a conciliatory spirit,
    befitting the occasion -

    25 Jesus answered them, i told you, and you believed not:the works that
    i do in my father's name, they bear witness of me.

    that is to say , the miracles bear witness of my prophethood and of me
    being the messiah .

    26 but ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as i said unto
    you.

    Jesus rebuts the false charge of his enemies that he was ambiguous in
    his claims to being the messiah that they were waiting for. he says that
    he did tell them clearly enough, yet they would not listen to him, but

    27 my sheep hear my voice, and i know them, and they follow me:

    28 and i give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, nei-
    ther shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

    29 my father which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able
    to pluck them out of my father's hand.

    how can anyone be so blind as not to see the exactness of the ending of
    the last two verses. but spiritual blinkers are more impervious than physical
    defects. he is telling the Jews and recording for posterity, the
    real unity or relationship between the father and the son. the most crucial
    verse -

    30 i and my father are one.

    one in what? in their omniscience? in their nature? in their omnipotence
    no! one in purpose! that once a believer has accepted faith, the messen-
    ger sees to it that he remains in faith, and god almighty also sees to
    it that he remains in faith. this is the purpose of the "father" and the
    "son" and the "holy ghost" and of every man and every woman of faith. let
    the same john explain his Gnostic mystic verbiage.

    that they all may be one: as thou. father, art in
    me, and in thee, that they also may be one in us...

    i in them, and thou in me, that they may be made
    perfect in one....
    john 17:20-22

    if Jesus is "one" with god, and if that "oneness" makes him god, then the
    traitor Judas, and the doubting Thomas, and the satanic peter, plus the
    other nine who deserted him when he was most in need are god(s),because
    the same oneness which he claimed with god in john 10:30, now he claims
    for all "who forsook him and fled"(mark 14:50) - all "ye of little faith"
    (mathew 8:26) - all "o faithless and perverse generation"(Luke 9:41)
    where and when will the Christian blasphemy end? the expression "i and
    my father are one," was very innocent, meaning nothing more than a com-
    mon purpose with god. but the Jews were looking for trouble and any ex-
    cuse will not do, therefore, -

    31 the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

    32 Jesus answered them, many good works have i shewed you from my father
    for which of those works do you stone me?

    33 the Jews answered him, saying, for a good work
    we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because
    that thou, being a man, makest thyself a god.

    in verse 24 above the Jews falsely alleged that Jesus was talking
    ambiguously. when that charge was ably refuted, they then accused him of
    blasphemy (Kufr) which is like treason in the spiritual realm. so they say
    that Jesus is claiming to be god - "i and my father are one". the Chris-
    tians agree with the Jews in this that Jesus (pbuh) did make such a claim;
    but, differ, in that it was not blasphemy because the Christians say
    that he was god and was entitled to own up to his divinity.

    the Christians and the Jews are both agreed that the utterance is seri-
    ous. to one as an excuse for good "redemption", and to the other as an
    excuse for good "riddance". between the two, let the poor Jesus die. but
    Jesus refuses to co-operate in this dirty game, so -

    34 Jesus answered them, is it not written in your law, i said,
    ye are gods?

    35 if he called them gods, unto whom the word of god came, and the
    scripture cannot be broken;

    36 say ye of him, whom the father hath sanctified, and sent into the
    world, thou blasphemest; because i said, i am the son of god?

    WHY "YOUR LAW"?
    he is bit sarcastic in verse 34, but in any event, why does he say:
    "your law"? is it not also his law? didn't he say: think not that i am
    come to destroy the law or the prophets: i am come not to destroy, but
    to fulfill (the law). for verily i say unto you, till heaven and earth
    pass away, one lot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till
    all be fulfilled. (Matthew 5:17-18)

    "YE ARE GODS"
    "ye are gods:" he is obviously quoting from the 82nd. psalm (verse 6)
    "i have said, ye are gods: and all of you are, the children of the most
    high."

    Jesus, continues, "if he (i.e. god almighty) called them gods, unto whom
    the word of god came (meaning that the prophets of god were called 'GODS'
    and the scripture cannot be broken (in other words- you can't contradict
    me!)." - Jesus knows his scripture; he speaks with authority; and he reasons
    with his enemies that "if good men, holy men, prophets of god are
    being addressed as "gods" in our books of authority, with which you find
    no fault - then why do you take exception to me? - when the only claim
    i make for myself is far inferior in our language, viz. "a son of god"
    as against others being called "gods" by god himself. even if (Jesus)
    described myself as "god" in our language, according to Hebrew usage,
    you could find no fault with me." this is the plain reading of Christian
    scripture. i am giving no interpretations of my own or some esoteric
    meaning to words!


    CHAPTER 7 : "IN THE BEGINNING"

    "where does Jesus say - "I am god," or "I am equal to god," or worship me"
    i asked the D. D. from Canada, again.

    reverend Morris took a deep breath and took another try. he quoted the
    most oft-repeated verse of the Christian bible. - john 1:1.

    "in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god and the word
    was god."
    please note, these are not the words of Jesus. they are the words of
    john (or whoever wrote them). acknowledged by every erudite Christian
    scholar of the bible as being the words of another Jew, Philo of alexan-
    dria, who had written them even before john and Jesus were born and Philo
    claimed no divine inspiration for them. no matter what mystical meaning
    that Philo had woven around these words (which our john has plagiarized)
    we will accept them for what they are worth.

    GREEK NOT HEBREW
    since the manuscripts of the 27 books of the new testament are in Greek,
    a Christian sect has produced its own version and has even changed the
    name of this selection of 27 books to "Christian Greek scriptures"! i
    asked the reverend whether he knew Greek? "yes," he said, he had studied
    Greek for 5 years before qualification . i asked him what was the Greek
    word for "god" the first time it occurs in the quotation - "and the
    word was with god"? he kept staring, but didn't answer. so i said, the
    word was HOTHEOS, which literally means "the god". since the European
    (including the north American) has evolved a system of using capital letter
    to start a proper noun and small letters for common nouns, we would ac-
    cept his giving a capital "g" for god; in other words HOTHEOS is rendered
    "the god" which in turn is rendered - god.

    "now tell me, what is the Greek word for god in the second occurrence
    in your quotation - "and the word was god"? the reverend still kept
    silent. not that he did not know Greek, or that he had lied - but, he knew
    more than that, the game was up. i said the word was TONTHEOS, which
    means "a god".
    according to your own system of translating you aught to have spelt this
    word God a second time with a small "g" i.e. god, and not God with a ca-
    pital "G"; in other words TONTHEOS is rendered "a god". both of these,
    "god" or "a god" are correct.

    i told the reverend "but in 2 Corinthians 4:4 you have dishonestly reversed
    your system by using a small "g" when spelling GOD - "(and the devil
    is) the god of this world." the Greek word for "the god" is HOTHEOS the
    same as in john 1:1. "why have you not been consistent in your transla-
    tion?" "if Paul was inspired (?) to write hotheos - the God for the
    Devil, why begrudge him that capital 'G'?"

    and in the old testament, the lord said unto Moses,"see, I have made thee
    a god to pharoah"(exodus 7:1). "why do you use a small "g" for "god"
    when referring to Moses instead of a capital "g" as you do for a mere
    word - 'word' - "and the word was god."?

    "why do you do this? why do you play fast and loose with the word of -
    god ?" i asked the reverend. he said, "i didn't do it." i said, "i know,
    but i am talking about the vested interests of Christianity, who are hell
    bent to deify Christ, by using capital letters here and small letters
    there, to deceive the unwary masses who think that every letter, every
    comma and full stop and the capital and small letters were dictated by
    god."


    CHAPTER 8 : WHAT IS LEFT

    THREE TOPICS
    it can hardly be expected in a small publication of this nature that one
    can deal with all the references about Jesus(pbuh) interspersed through-
    out the fifteen different chapters of the holy quran. what we can do is
    to give a quick glance to the index page reproduced from the quran on
    page 7 of this book.

    here we find three significant topics, not dealt with yet in our
    discussion:

    (1) not crucified, iv. 157
    (2) message and miracles, v. 113;xix. 30-33;
    (3) prophesied Ahmed 1xi.6

    regarding the first topic, "not crucified", i wrote a full booklet titled
    "Was the Christ Crucified ?" that deals exclusively with that subject

    as regards the third topic mentioned above, prophesied Ahmed", you can
    refer to my booklet titled " what the bible says about muhummed"

    THE WAY TO SALVATION
    we are now left with topic no.2 - "message and miracles".
    the message of Jesus (pbuh) was as simple and straight forward as that
    of all his predecessors as well as that of his successor muhummed(pbuh)
    namely "believe in god and keep his commandments". for the god who ins-
    pired his messengers, is an unvarying god and he is consistent: he is
    not the "author of confusion" (1 Corinthian 14:33).

    a law abiding Jew comes to Jesus seeking eternal life or salvation.
    in the words of Matthew:

    and behold, one came and said unto him, good
    master, what good thing shall i do, that i may have
    eternal life?

    and he said unto him, why callest thou me good?
    there is none good but one, that is god: but if
    thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
    Matthew 19:16-17
    you will agree, that if you or i were that Jew, we would infer from
    these words that, according to Jesus (pbuh), salvation was guaranteed
    provided we kept the commandments without the shedding of any innocent
    blood. unless, of course Jesus (pbuh) was speaking with tongue in cheek;
    knowing full well that his own "forthcoming redemptive sacrifice", his
    "vicarious atonement"(?!) for the sins of mankind, was not many days
    hence.

    why would Jesus give him the "impossible" solution of keeping the law
    (as the Christian alleges) when an easier way was in the offing? or did
    he not know what was going to happen - that he was to be crucified? was
    there not a contract between father and "son", before the worlds began,
    for his redeeming blood to be shed(?!) had he lost his memory? no! there
    was no such fairy tale agreement as far as Jesus was concerned. he knew
    that there is only one way to god, and that is, as Jesus (pbuh) said, -
    keep the commandments!

    MIRACLES - WHAT THEY PROVE
    regarding his miracles: the holy quran does not go into any detail about
    blind Bartimus or about Lazarus or any other miracle, except that he
    (Jesus) defended his mother as an infant in his mother's arms (ch. 4).
    the Muslim has no hesitation about accepting the most wondrous of his
    miracles - even that of reviving the dead. but that does not make Jesus
    a "god" or the begotten "son of god" as understood by the Christian.

    miracles do not prove even prophethood, or whether a man is true or false.
    Jesus himself said:

    for there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall
    shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible,
    they shall deceive the very elect.
    Matthew 24:4

    if false prophets and false Christ can perform miraculous feats, then
    these wonders or miracles do not prove even the genuineness or other-
    wise, of a prophet.

    john the Baptist, according to Jesus, was the greatest of the Israelite
    prophets. greater than Moses, David, Solomon, Isaiah and all, not exclu-
    ding himself: in his own words:-

    verily i say unto you, among them that are born of women there hath
    not risen a greater than john the Baptist.. Matthew 11:11

    (1) not excluding Jesus (pbuh):because, was he not born of a woman-
    Mary? (2) the Baptist, greater than all, yet he performed not a single
    miracle! miracles are no standards of judging truth and falsehood.

    but in his childishness, the Christian insists that Jesus is god because
    he gave life back to the dead. will reviving the dead make others god
    too? this perplexes him, because he has mentally blocked himself from
    the miracles of others who outshine Jesus in his own bible. for example,
    according to his false standard:-

    (a) Moses is greater than Jesus because he put life back into a dead
    stick and transmuted it from the plant kingdom to the animal king-
    dom by making it into a serpent (exodus 7:10)

    (b) Elisha is greater than Jesus because the rotten bones of Elisha
    brought a man back to life merely by coming into contact with the
    corpse (2 kings 13:21).

    need i illustrate to you a catalogue of miracles? but the sickness per-
    sists - "it was god working miracles through his prophets but Jesus per-
    formed them of his own power." where did Jesus (pbuh) get all his power
    from? ask Jesus, and he will tell us:-

    POWER NOT HIS OWN
    ....all power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:18

    ....i cast our devils by the spirit of god, then the kingdom of god is
    come unto you. Matthew 12:28

    i can of mine own self do nothing.... john 5:30

    ...i with the finger of god cast our devils.... Luke 11:20

    BORROWED POWER
    the "power" as he says is not his. "it is given unto me". given by whom?
    by god, of course! every action, every word he attributes to god.

    LAZARUS
    but since so much is made of Jesus mightiest miracle of reviving Lazarus
    from the dead, we will analyze the episode as recorded in john's gospel.
    it is astonishing that none of the other gospel writers mention Lazarus
    in any context. however, the story is that Lazarus was very stick, his
    sisters Mary and Martha had made frantic calls for Jesus to come and
    cure his sickness but he arrived too late, actually four days after his
    demise.

    HE GROANED
    Mary wails to Jesus that had he arrived in time, perhaps her brother
    would not have died; meaning that if he could heal other peoples' sick-
    ness, why would he not have healed her brother, a dear friend of his.
    Jesus says that "even now if ye have faith, ye shall see the glory of
    god." the condition was that they should have faith. didn't he say that
    faith could move mountains? he asks to be taken to the tomb. on the way,
    "he groaned in the spirit". he was not mumbling; he was pouring out his
    heart and praying to god. but while he sobbed so bitterly his words were
    not audible enough for people around him to understand. hence the words
    "he groaned". on reaching the grave, Jesus "groaned" again; perhaps,
    even more earnestly and god heard his groaning (his prayer), and Jesus
    received the assurance that god will fulfill his request. now,Jesus could
    rest assured and command that the stone which was barring the tomb, be
    removed so that Lazarus could come back from the dead. without that
    assurance from god, Jesus (pbuh) would have made a fool of himself.

    AVOIDING MISUNDERSTANDING
    Mary thinks of the stink because her brother had been dead for four days
    but Jesus was confident and the stone was removed. then he looked up to-
    wards heaven and said:

    "father, i thank thee that thou hast heard me.
    "and i knew that thou hearest me always: but
    because of the people which stand by i said it, that
    they may believe that thou hast sent me."
    john 11:41-42

    what is all this, play-acting? why all the drama? because he know that
    these superstitious and credulous people will misunderstand the source
    of the miracle. they might take him for "god". giving life to the dead
    is the prerogative of god alone. to make doubly sure, that his people do
    not misunderstand, he speaks out loudly that the "groaning" was actually
    his crying to god almighty for help. the prayer was incoherent as far as
    the bystanders could discern, but the father in heaven had accepted his
    prayer, viz. "thou hast heard me".

    furthermore, he says, - "thou hearest me always"; in other words every
    miracle wrought by him was an answer by god almighty to his prayer. the
    Jews of his day understood the position well, and they "glorified god",
    as Matthew tells us of another occasion when the Jews exclaimed "for
    giving such power unto men" (matt. 9:8).

    in fact, Jesus gives his reason for speaking loudly. he says, "that they
    may believe that thou has sent me." one who is sent is a messenger, and
    if he be sent by god, then he is a messenger of god i.e. rasul-ullah -
    see chapter 6 of this booklet where Jesus is referred to as "rasul-ullah"
    (messenger of Allah).

    alas, this attempt by Jesus to prevent any misunderstanding, as to who
    really performed the miracle, and that he was in fact only a messenger
    of god, failed. Christians will not even accept the unambiguous disavo-
    wal of Jesus, nor the testimony of peter, the "rock" upon which Jesus
    was supposed to build his church. peter truly testified:

    ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved
    of god among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which god-did by him
    in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.
    acts 2:22

    CASE NOT HOPELESS
    this very same message is repeated by god almighty in the holy quran,
    following the annunciation. in verse 49 of chapter 3, Allah makes it
    clear that every sign or wonder that Jesus performed was.

    "by Allah's leave," by god's permission. Jesus says so, peter says so
    and god says so; but the stubborn controversialist will not listen:
    prejudice, superstition and credulity die hard. our duty is simply to
    deliver the message, loud and clear, the rest we leave to god. the case
    is not altogether hopeless for Allah tells us in his holy book:

    and among them *
    are some who have faith,
    but most of them
    are perverted transgressors.
    holy quran 3:10

    *among them: meaning the Jews and the Christians there are two types of
    people; the one group described as people of faith to whom this book is
    addressed, and the other as rebellious transgressors. we must also find
    ways and means of getting at them. our literature is eminently suited to
    cater for all. read them and pass them around so it may be of use to
    some who have faith .

    as a conclusion i suggest to :
    open the holy quran ( i recommend having one if you still don't have it)
    and read the verses discussed in this book. then we can truly conclude:

    such (was) Jesus the son
    of Mary : (it is) a statement
    of truth, about which
    they (vainly) dispute.

    it is not befitting
    to (the majesty of) god
    that he should beget
    a son. glory be to him !
    when he determines
    a matter, he only says
    to it, "be", and it is.

    verily god is my lord
    and your lord : him
    therefore serve ye : this is
    a way that is straight.
    holy quran 19:34-36
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    قال الله تعالى ( مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ رِجَالٌ صَدَقُوا مَا عَاهَدُوا اللَّهَ عَلَيْهِ فَمِنْهُم مَّن قَضَى نَحْبَهُ وَمِنْهُم مَّن يَنتَظِرُ وَمَا بَدَّلُوا تَبْدِيلًا ﴿23﴾ لِيَجْزِيَ اللَّهُ الصَّادِقِينَ بِصِدْقِهِمْ وَيُعَذِّبَ الْمُنَافِقِينَ إِن شَاء أَوْ يَتُوبَ عَلَيْهِمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا ﴿24﴾ الأحزاب

    إن الدخول في الإسلام صفقة بين متبايعين.. .الله سبحانه هو المشتري والمؤمن فيها هو البائع ، فهي بيعة مع الله ، لا يبقى بعدها للمؤمن شيء في نفسه ، ولا في ماله.. لتكون كلمة الله هي العليا ، وليكون الدين كله لله.


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