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    Lets presume, after all this, that he is a righteous son by the sense understood by the Christian preacher, would this mean that the righteous son can never err? I wonder what if we said that such a person is intelligent, respectful or hard worker, would this mean that he is like that in everything whether a trifle or important thing at any time? No, what is meant here is that this is the dominant trait of him and he would not change but as an exception. We have shown that according to what the authors of the Gospels wrote the Messiah PBUH used to lose his temper, curse, and insult and speak to his mother roughly with no respect and he would eat from fields without asking permission from their owners. In addition, he considered cleanliness of hands and mouth before eating as a disgraceful matter confirming that it is better for a man to have his food without washing his hands nor his mouth etc. however, we Muslims do not believe much in what these authors attribute to him of wrong acts that do not befit messengers of Allah (Prayers Be upon All of Them)! Even if we accept that he was a deity as they said, the reply would be that he was not a righteous deity but an embodied deity in the form of a human being. Hence, he was read to err every now and then in his human character similar to his being subject to hunger, thirst, need for using a toilet, as he used to worry, get sad, angry, troubled of pain for the same reason! Rather, if we said that the "" righteous is the one who never commits a sin; in fact, this would not be limited to Eissa PBUH alone, how is that? The answer can be derived from the following t e x t in which the messiah himself and no one else speaks about the righteous blood among mankind in their capacity as a great thing which is not limited to him only. It is found in the 23rd chapter of the Gospel of Mathew:
    "29 ! 30: . 31 . 32 . 33 ! 34 35 ".

    23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets1, and garnish the tombs of the righteous,
    [LIST=1][*]For ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, etc. See notes at Luke 11:47,48. [/LIST]23:33 Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers1, how shall ye escape the judgment of hell?
    23:34 Therefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes1: some of them shall ye kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues2, and persecute from city to city:
    23:35that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of Abel the righteous unto the blood of Zachariah1 son of Barachiah, whom ye slew between the sanctuary and the altar.

    This statement appeared repeatedly in the Holy Book or similar statements, like what we read in the 26th chapter of Jeremiah Book which contains a warning made by this prophet to his people against attempting to kill him only for his reporting to them his Gods message concerning the destruction that awaits them due to their disobedience and disbelief describing his blood which they would spill as righteous blood " " :

    ǡ (15)".
    But mark well: if you put me to death, it is innocent blood you bring on yourselves, on this city and its citizens. For in truth it was the LORD who sent me to you, to speak all these things for you to hear."

    Then these words were repeated in the Holy Koran about this person or that being righteous as a very possible matter which has nothing miraculous in its nature. Thus, in Surat El-Shams:

    " (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)"
    [1] By the sun and its brightness. [2] By the moon as it follows it (the sun). [3] By the day as it shows up (the sun's) brightness. [4] By the night as it conceals it (the sun). [5] By the heaven and Him Who built it. [6] By the earth and Him Who spread it. [7] By Nafs (Adam or a person or a soul), and Him Who perfected him in proportion; [8] Then He showed him what is wrong for him and what is right for him. [9] Indeed he succeeds who purifies his own self (i.e. obeys and performs all that Allh ordered, by following the true Faith of Islmic Monotheism and by doing righteous good deeds). [10] And indeed he fails who corrupts his own self (i.e. disobeys what Allh has ordered by rejecting the true Faith of Islmic Monotheism or by following polytheism or by doing every kind of evil wicked deeds).

    And in Sural El-Lail:

    " (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20)"
    [14] Therefore I have warned you of a blazing Fire (Hell). [15] None shall enter it save the most wretched. [16] Who denies and turns away. [17] And Al-Muttaqn (the pious and righteous - see V.2:2) will be far removed from it (Hell). [18] He who spends his wealth for increase in self-purification, [19] And who has (in mind) no favor from anyone to be paid back, [20] Except to seek the Countenance of his Lord, the Most High.

    Moreover, the Koran mentions that the Prophet PBUH does charity for others, i.e. grants people charity for their souls. Almighty God said in Surat El-Bakra:

    " (151(
    [151] Similarly (to complete My Blessings on you), We have sent among you a Messenger (Muhammad (peace be upon him)) of your own, reciting to you Our Verses (the Qur'n) and purifying you, and teaching you the Book (the Qur'n) and the Hikmah (i.e. Sunnah, Islmic laws and Fiqh - jurisprudence), and teaching you that which you used not to know.

    And in Surat Al Emeran:

    " (164)"
    [164] Indeed Allh conferred a great favor on the believers when He sent among them a Messenger (Muhammad (peace be upon him)) from among themselves, reciting unto them His Verses (the Qur'n), and purifying them (from sins by their following him), and instructing them (in) the Book (the Qur'n) and Al-Hikmah (the wisdom and the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him) (i.e. his legal ways, statements, acts of worship)) while before that they had been in manifest error.

    And in Surat El-Gomaah:

    " (2)"
    [2] He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger (Muhammad (peace be upon him)) from among themselves, reciting to them His Verses, purifying them (from the filth of disbelief and polytheism), and teaching them the Book (this Qur'n, Islmic laws and Islmic jurisprudence) and Al-Hikmah (As-Sunnah: legal ways, orders, acts of worship of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him))And verily, they had been before in manifest error;

    Then the favour and bless bestowed by Koran upon Eissa PBUH is great. It is the only book which cleared Maryam PBUH from what was rumored by the Jews about her and slandered her reputation by filthy charades and accused her son of madness and magic. However, Koran confronted them and glorified her and her son greatly. Nevertheless, it did not exceed by them despite this the limits of humanity and bondage for God the only one and whoever idolizes them is considered atheist.

    The Christian preacher says: there is no difference between the message and conduct of Eissa as he preached what he said and stuck to his preaching without any blame or sin. However, authors of bibles had apparently another opinion as they mentioned for example that he and his disciples passed a field and they headed to it filling their stomachs without taking permission from its owner who was not there. In addition to this, we find him PBUH commending one of them to go to a stable and fetch a horse tied there without permission from its owner in order to mount it when he enters Jerusalem! Moreover, these authors made the first miracle conducted by PBUH of changing water into wine i.e. converting the instinct drink to the devil drink! There is another absolutely unacceptable situation in which they attributed to him his loathe of a Canaanite or Phoenician woman as being absolutely offensive inhuman despise. This woman came to him in order to cure her sick daughter; however, he told her degrading arrogantly and haughtily that the food needed by the children is forbidden for dogs and she said anxiously, apprehensively and invocating humiliation in order to save her daughter that dogs have a share as well from the falling crumbs under the feet. Only then he agreed to cure her daughter for her while this cure would not have cost him anything as it is a heavenly miracle conducted by God through him without any effort! In addition to this his deafening insults for the Jews and his cursing them and his turning over their feasts in the altar and using the scourge in order to get them out of it. This is in addition to his denial of his disciples faith in more than one occasion, especially Boutros and his cruelty in his speech with his mother and about her as mentioned above. Then where is his famous saying about loving our enemies and blessing our cursers and turning our left cheeks for whoever slaps us on the right cheek as well as leaving the cloak entirely for whoever wants to usurp it so that we walked the streets completely naked and nude showing off our private places and genitals proudly? It is obvious that there is a great gap between principle and application that refutes the validity of all said by the preacher concerning absolute typicality between the message and behaviour for him PBUH. This talking is not invented by us; rather, they come from the bibles themselves. Our role is limited to making reference to what they include without any interference on our part although we Muslims do not believe in what is said about him PBUH that damages his honoured image.

    In the Arabic Gospel of the Infancy of the Savior, we find the little boy Eissa doing some terrible acts that show a cruelty, roughness and brutality that contradicts what the Christian preacher claims about him. It was not Muslims who wrote this gospel; rather, it was scribed by some Christians who wanted to glorify PBUH and assert that he is a deity. An example is when a Sabbath fanatic Jewish boy hit by his hand the small water pond made by the hand of Eissa (Jesus) himself in this holy day for the Jews in order to play at it and made some clay figures around them as children would do, Jesus dried up this boy and made him die as a punishment for his kicking by his foot the small pond and drying up its water. Despite the fact that the error made by this Jewish boy is not a fatal one; rather, it a good deed according to the those believing in Judaism and Eissa (Jesus) according to what came out of his mouth did not come to contradict this religion; instead he was sent to complete it. Then what to say about this? How can we claim that he PBUH set an example of placidity, tolerance, kindness of heart and compassion for the weak of mankind? Suppose that this was an erroneous act on the part of the Jewish boy? Would this be the punishment for such trivial mistake, if it were correct to call it a mistake in the first place? Another example relates that a child bumped into him accidentally on the road while he was running and caused him (Jesus) to fall down. Jesus cursed him to fall down as he caused him to fall and he would never get up of his fall again. And it was as the boy fell dead at once! How tolerant, patient and merciful he was! I wonder if we should justify this by saying that he was not then a mature grown-up deity with experience that would enable him to understand and become tolerant. However, do gods grew up and become mature meanwhile they lack experience like us and take their decisions nervously, cruelly and exasperatingly like our boy deity? How a weak deism! These are the two stories of which I read in the English and French translations of this Gospel:


    A- "46. Again, on another day, the Lord Jesus was with the boys at a stream of water, and they had again made little fish-ponds. And the Lord Jesus had made twelve sparrows, and had arranged them round His fish-pond, three on each side. And it was the Sabbath-day. Wherefore a Jew, the son of Hanan, coming up, and seeing them thus engaged, said in anger and great indignation: Do you make figures of clay on the Sabbath-day? And he ran quickly, and destroyed their fish-ponds. But when the Lord Jesus clapped His hands over the sparrows which He had made, they flew away chirping. Then the son of Hanan came up to the fish-pond of Jesus also, and kicked it with his shoes, and the water of it vanished away. And the Lord Jesus said to him: As that water has vanished away, so thy life shall likewise vanish away. And immediately that boy dried up. 47. At another time, when the Lord Jesus was returning home with Joseph in the evening. He met a boy, who ran up against Him with so much force that He fell. And the Lord Jesus said to him: As thou hast thrown me down, so thou shall fall and not rise again. And the same hour the boy fell down, and expired".

    B- " XLVI. - Un autre jour, le Seigneur Jsus se trouvait encore avec des enfants sur le bord de l'eau, et ils avaient dtourn l'eau de ce ruisseau par des fosss, se construisant de petites piscines; et le Seigneur Jsus avait fait douze moineaux, et les avait arrangs, trois de chaque ct, autour de sa piscine. Or, c'tait un jour de sabbat; et le fils du Juif Hanani, s'approchant et les voyant agir de la sorte: Est-ce ainsi, dit-il, qu'un jour de sabbat vous faites des figures de terre? Et accourant promptement, il dtruisait leurs piscines. Mais lorsque le Seigneur Jsus eut frapp des mains sur les moineaux qu'il avait faits, ils s'envolaient en criant. Ensuite le fils d'Hanani s'approchant aussi de la piscine de Jsus pour la dtruire, son eau s'vanouit, et le Seigneur Jsus lui dit: Comme cette eau s'est vanouie, de mme votre vie s'vanouira; et sur-le-champ cet enfant se desscha. XLVII. - Dans un autre temps, comme le Seigneur Jsus retournait le soir la maison avec Joseph, il fut rencontr par un enfant qui, courant rapidement, le heurta et le fit tomber. Le Seigneur Jsus lui dit: Comme vous m'avez pouss, de mme vous tomberez, et ne vous relverez pas; et, la mme heure, l'enfant tomba et expira".




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    Lets presume, after all this, that he is a righteous son by the sense understood by the Christian preacher, would this mean that the righteous son can never err? I wonder what if we said that such a person is intelligent, respectful or hard worker, would this mean that he is like that in everything whether a trifle or important thing at any time? No, what is meant here is that this is the dominant trait of him and he would not change but as an exception. We have shown that according to what the authors of the Gospels wrote the Messiah PBUH used to lose his temper, curse, and insult and speak to his mother roughly with no respect and he would eat from fields without asking permission from their owners. In addition, he considered cleanliness of hands and mouth before eating as a disgraceful matter confirming that it is better for a man to have his food without washing his hands nor his mouth etc. however, we Muslims do not believe much in what these authors attribute to him of wrong acts that do not befit messengers of Allah (Prayers Be upon All of Them)! Even if we accept that he was a deity as they said, the reply would be that he was not a righteous deity but an embodied deity in the form of a human being. Hence, he was read to err every now and then in his human character similar to his being subject to hunger, thirst, need for using a toilet, as he used to worry, get sad, angry, troubled of pain for the same reason! Rather, if we said that the "" righteous is the one who never commits a sin; in fact, this would not be limited to Eissa PBUH alone, how is that? The answer can be derived from the following t e x t in which the messiah himself and no one else speaks about the righteous blood among mankind in their capacity as a great thing which is not limited to him only. It is found in the 23rd chapter of the Gospel of Mathew:
    "29 ! 30: . 31 . 32 . 33 ! 34 35 ".

    23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets1, and garnish the tombs of the righteous,
    [LIST=1][*]For ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, etc. See notes at Luke 11:47,48. [/LIST]23:33 Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers1, how shall ye escape the judgment of hell?
    23:34 Therefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes1: some of them shall ye kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues2, and persecute from city to city:
    23:35that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of Abel the righteous unto the blood of Zachariah1 son of Barachiah, whom ye slew between the sanctuary and the altar.

    This statement appeared repeatedly in the Holy Book or similar statements, like what we read in the 26th chapter of Jeremiah Book which contains a warning made by this prophet to his people against attempting to kill him only for his reporting to them his Gods message concerning the destruction that awaits them due to their disobedience and disbelief describing his blood which they would spill as righteous blood " " :

    ǡ (15)".
    But mark well: if you put me to death, it is innocent blood you bring on yourselves, on this city and its citizens. For in truth it was the LORD who sent me to you, to speak all these things for you to hear."

    Then these words were repeated in the Holy Koran about this person or that being righteous as a very possible matter which has nothing miraculous in its nature. Thus, in Surat El-Shams:

    " (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)"
    [1] By the sun and its brightness. [2] By the moon as it follows it (the sun). [3] By the day as it shows up (the sun's) brightness. [4] By the night as it conceals it (the sun). [5] By the heaven and Him Who built it. [6] By the earth and Him Who spread it. [7] By Nafs (Adam or a person or a soul), and Him Who perfected him in proportion; [8] Then He showed him what is wrong for him and what is right for him. [9] Indeed he succeeds who purifies his own self (i.e. obeys and performs all that Allh ordered, by following the true Faith of Islmic Monotheism and by doing righteous good deeds). [10] And indeed he fails who corrupts his own self (i.e. disobeys what Allh has ordered by rejecting the true Faith of Islmic Monotheism or by following polytheism or by doing every kind of evil wicked deeds).

    And in Sural El-Lail:

    " (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20)"
    [14] Therefore I have warned you of a blazing Fire (Hell). [15] None shall enter it save the most wretched. [16] Who denies and turns away. [17] And Al-Muttaqn (the pious and righteous - see V.2:2) will be far removed from it (Hell). [18] He who spends his wealth for increase in self-purification, [19] And who has (in mind) no favor from anyone to be paid back, [20] Except to seek the Countenance of his Lord, the Most High.

    Moreover, the Koran mentions that the Prophet PBUH does charity for others, i.e. grants people charity for their souls. Almighty God said in Surat El-Bakra:

    " (151(
    [151] Similarly (to complete My Blessings on you), We have sent among you a Messenger (Muhammad (peace be upon him)) of your own, reciting to you Our Verses (the Qur'n) and purifying you, and teaching you the Book (the Qur'n) and the Hikmah (i.e. Sunnah, Islmic laws and Fiqh - jurisprudence), and teaching you that which you used not to know.

    And in Surat Al Emeran:

    " (164)"
    [164] Indeed Allh conferred a great favor on the believers when He sent among them a Messenger (Muhammad (peace be upon him)) from among themselves, reciting unto them His Verses (the Qur'n), and purifying them (from sins by their following him), and instructing them (in) the Book (the Qur'n) and Al-Hikmah (the wisdom and the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him) (i.e. his legal ways, statements, acts of worship)) while before that they had been in manifest error.

    And in Surat El-Gomaah:

    " (2)"
    [2] He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger (Muhammad (peace be upon him)) from among themselves, reciting to them His Verses, purifying them (from the filth of disbelief and polytheism), and teaching them the Book (this Qur'n, Islmic laws and Islmic jurisprudence) and Al-Hikmah (As-Sunnah: legal ways, orders, acts of worship of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him))And verily, they had been before in manifest error;

    Then the favour and bless bestowed by Koran upon Eissa PBUH is great. It is the only book which cleared Maryam PBUH from what was rumored by the Jews about her and slandered her reputation by filthy charades and accused her son of madness and magic. However, Koran confronted them and glorified her and her son greatly. Nevertheless, it did not exceed by them despite this the limits of humanity and bondage for God the only one and whoever idolizes them is considered atheist.

    The Christian preacher says: there is no difference between the message and conduct of Eissa as he preached what he said and stuck to his preaching without any blame or sin. However, authors of bibles had apparently another opinion as they mentioned for example that he and his disciples passed a field and they headed to it filling their stomachs without taking permission from its owner who was not there. In addition to this, we find him PBUH commending one of them to go to a stable and fetch a horse tied there without permission from its owner in order to mount it when he enters Jerusalem! Moreover, these authors made the first miracle conducted by PBUH of changing water into wine i.e. converting the instinct drink to the devil drink! There is another absolutely unacceptable situation in which they attributed to him his loathe of a Canaanite or Phoenician woman as being absolutely offensive inhuman despise. This woman came to him in order to cure her sick daughter; however, he told her degrading arrogantly and haughtily that the food needed by the children is forbidden for dogs and she said anxiously, apprehensively and invocating humiliation in order to save her daughter that dogs have a share as well from the falling crumbs under the feet. Only then he agreed to cure her daughter for her while this cure would not have cost him anything as it is a heavenly miracle conducted by God through him without any effort! In addition to this his deafening insults for the Jews and his cursing them and his turning over their feasts in the altar and using the scourge in order to get them out of it. This is in addition to his denial of his disciples faith in more than one occasion, especially Boutros and his cruelty in his speech with his mother and about her as mentioned above. Then where is his famous saying about loving our enemies and blessing our cursers and turning our left cheeks for whoever slaps us on the right cheek as well as leaving the cloak entirely for whoever wants to usurp it so that we walked the streets completely naked and nude showing off our private places and genitals proudly? It is obvious that there is a great gap between principle and application that refutes the validity of all said by the preacher concerning absolute typicality between the message and behaviour for him PBUH. This talking is not invented by us; rather, they come from the bibles themselves. Our role is limited to making reference to what they include without any interference on our part although we Muslims do not believe in what is said about him PBUH that damages his honoured image.

    In the Arabic Gospel of the Infancy of the Savior, we find the little boy Eissa doing some terrible acts that show a cruelty, roughness and brutality that contradicts what the Christian preacher claims about him. It was not Muslims who wrote this gospel; rather, it was scribed by some Christians who wanted to glorify PBUH and assert that he is a deity. An example is when a Sabbath fanatic Jewish boy hit by his hand the small water pond made by the hand of Eissa (Jesus) himself in this holy day for the Jews in order to play at it and made some clay figures around them as children would do, Jesus dried up this boy and made him die as a punishment for his kicking by his foot the small pond and drying up its water. Despite the fact that the error made by this Jewish boy is not a fatal one; rather, it a good deed according to the those believing in Judaism and Eissa (Jesus) according to what came out of his mouth did not come to contradict this religion; instead he was sent to complete it. Then what to say about this? How can we claim that he PBUH set an example of placidity, tolerance, kindness of heart and compassion for the weak of mankind? Suppose that this was an erroneous act on the part of the Jewish boy? Would this be the punishment for such trivial mistake, if it were correct to call it a mistake in the first place? Another example relates that a child bumped into him accidentally on the road while he was running and caused him (Jesus) to fall down. Jesus cursed him to fall down as he caused him to fall and he would never get up of his fall again. And it was as the boy fell dead at once! How tolerant, patient and merciful he was! I wonder if we should justify this by saying that he was not then a mature grown-up deity with experience that would enable him to understand and become tolerant. However, do gods grew up and become mature meanwhile they lack experience like us and take their decisions nervously, cruelly and exasperatingly like our boy deity? How a weak deism! These are the two stories of which I read in the English and French translations of this Gospel:


    A- "46. Again, on another day, the Lord Jesus was with the boys at a stream of water, and they had again made little fish-ponds. And the Lord Jesus had made twelve sparrows, and had arranged them round His fish-pond, three on each side. And it was the Sabbath-day. Wherefore a Jew, the son of Hanan, coming up, and seeing them thus engaged, said in anger and great indignation: Do you make figures of clay on the Sabbath-day? And he ran quickly, and destroyed their fish-ponds. But when the Lord Jesus clapped His hands over the sparrows which He had made, they flew away chirping. Then the son of Hanan came up to the fish-pond of Jesus also, and kicked it with his shoes, and the water of it vanished away. And the Lord Jesus said to him: As that water has vanished away, so thy life shall likewise vanish away. And immediately that boy dried up. 47. At another time, when the Lord Jesus was returning home with Joseph in the evening. He met a boy, who ran up against Him with so much force that He fell. And the Lord Jesus said to him: As thou hast thrown me down, so thou shall fall and not rise again. And the same hour the boy fell down, and expired".

    B- " XLVI. - Un autre jour, le Seigneur Jsus se trouvait encore avec des enfants sur le bord de l'eau, et ils avaient dtourn l'eau de ce ruisseau par des fosss, se construisant de petites piscines; et le Seigneur Jsus avait fait douze moineaux, et les avait arrangs, trois de chaque ct, autour de sa piscine. Or, c'tait un jour de sabbat; et le fils du Juif Hanani, s'approchant et les voyant agir de la sorte: Est-ce ainsi, dit-il, qu'un jour de sabbat vous faites des figures de terre? Et accourant promptement, il dtruisait leurs piscines. Mais lorsque le Seigneur Jsus eut frapp des mains sur les moineaux qu'il avait faits, ils s'envolaient en criant. Ensuite le fils d'Hanani s'approchant aussi de la piscine de Jsus pour la dtruire, son eau s'vanouit, et le Seigneur Jsus lui dit: Comme cette eau s'est vanouie, de mme votre vie s'vanouira; et sur-le-champ cet enfant se desscha. XLVII. - Dans un autre temps, comme le Seigneur Jsus retournait le soir la maison avec Joseph, il fut rencontr par un enfant qui, courant rapidement, le heurta et le fit tomber. Le Seigneur Jsus lui dit: Comme vous m'avez pouss, de mme vous tomberez, et ne vous relverez pas; et, la mme heure, l'enfant tomba et expira".




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    Moreover, when he got informed of the murdering of his teacher and baptizer, Yehia PBUH, we find him, as scribers of gospels mention as well, heading to the wilderness with his disciples uncaringly as they spent there sometime eating and drinking light-heartedly not shedding a tear as if nothing happened! Above all, the devil got so gluttonous in tempting him, so he led him here and there and kept moving him from the top of the mountain to the middle of the wilderness to the top of the temple demanding him to perform so and so of such strange demands contradictory to faith which the Christians call a trial of the devil for him! How by God would Satan be that gluttonous for him? I wonder if the father of devils got so aged that he no more could discern visuals and he no longer could see that he was dealing with God Himself not with a human being! How that God did not warn him and say to him: O fellow, retain a grain of salt in your face (i.e. have or show some good manners, this is a shameful behaviour and is not becoming of you to act like this? Then He would slap him (Satan) on the face causing his eyes to glow flamingly exploding out of anger. Only then he (Satan) would know God indeed and would never repeat this again. Rather, how he (God) obeyed the father of devils and followed him wherever he took him and wherever he led him? Rather, how did PBUH assert that he did not come to contradict the faith? Then he would attack the religion immediately scribing this legislation or that of these legislations brought by Moses? All this is known for who read the gospels. It was not we Muslims who said this; rather, it was the scribers of the New Testament. Before all this, he, PBUH contradicted greatly the basis of his religion, its essence and the axis upon which it revolves when his enemies placed him on the cross according to what was stated in the Gospels not what we Muslims believe in as the Christians believe that he (PBUH) had come to salvage all mankind (all mankind not merely children of Israel about whom he repeatedly mentioned that he had come only for them and in order to teach them neither to repent their sins nor anything at all of the sort). However, we find him panicking and filled with worry and sorrow; furthermore, on the cross he screamed and shrieked asking for help but there is no help indicating that he forgot his mission for which he had been sent to the Earth or at least he could not rise to its standard. This means that his behaviour did not conform to what he preached. If we should add to this what Christians said about his deism, we would know that the catastrophe is more devastating and worse. As this means that this god is too weak to avoid such error while he was the one who created among all that he created error and he could have avoided committing this error. This is in addition to being so feeble that he could not tolerate torture and pain while he was the one who created among all that he created torture and pain. He would have saved himself of feeling this torture and pain. If gods would err, feel pain and torture at the hands of whom? The hands of criminals of their creatures! How I wonder?! By the way, there were people among the ancestors of Muslims and their successors who confronted this kind of torture and tolerated it and were their victims without making a big fuss about it like this from their fellows and beloved!

    By the way as well we would not have liked to draw such a comparison, we think that the holy messenger would not be pleased by such talk, if . Yes, if some Christians challenge Muslims by such comparison! We find for example this book, at hand here, published in the different Christian websites. In addition, some shredded priests provoke us in their websites messages to answer him and the like with the impertinent recklessness in obscenity of the holy messenger person. If the scribers of this book (this is a true testimony) are too careful not to descend to this rotten abyss, and this is what we feel grateful for them and its effect appears in our reply to them as the readers must have noticed. Therefore, we have to answer such provocations and challenges every now and then so that the readers, who are not completely aware of all aspects, do not think that it is a difficult challenge while they themselves see that there is no kind of difficulty despite the embarrassment I felt for what pain I unintentionally caused some Christian friends who correspond with us and with whom we share mutual kindness because this talk may have a bad effect on them no matter how broad their hearts and minds are. However, we depend on, despite this, their good judgment for the attack against the master of messengers, the prophet (PBUH) has become occupying the minds of each jobless bastard especially the shredded priest who floods me every while with varieties of books challenging me to respond to all of them. Whenever I refute some of what he sends of absurdities and obscurities and did not leave him a **** linked to another over tens of pages in an unequivocal crucial logic, he would simply say without bothering himself to answer anything of what we have written: lets leave this and move to another, or that what I have written does not convince me like this, very briefly in only a few words, and that was the end of that, . And nothing could be done about it.

    We would like these friends to forgive us and do not think that we are fond of hurting them; rather, we only wish to answer some of these challenges we have pointed out, only some that we feel would compensate for the rest and not all. Otherwise, we will not finish writing and talking and we will not be able despite this to cover not even one of thousand of what provocations that are raised. In addition, the other party does not bother himself to answer what we say and if he does, he would resort to lying, defamation, manipulation of stories. He does not interpret in detail as we do so that we leave no gaps in the subject without covering them; hence, they do not remain wide open like the blistered buttock of the priest! My greetings to you, priest!


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    Among what the Christian preacher attempts to apply when distinguishing between the Messiah and his fellow prophet is his saying: The Koran witness that all prophets and messengers have certain sins. It mentions the errors of some except the Messiah as he had always been innocent and chaste.

    We would have wished that he mentions the sins which he claimed the Koran recorded for all prophets. However, he did not do it and the reason why he did not is because he does not say the truth. We do not mean to say here that this happened as lying and falsity on his part. Rather, we say that he did it out of forgetfulness or confusion between the Koran and the Bible which attributes to them such catastrophes of the heavy stuff that cannot be tolerated as if the messengers and prophets are a gang of bully criminals. Therefore, some of them are murderers, adulterers, drunkards, swindlers, incestuous, sharing idolatry, and among them are those preparing for and bless it for whoever wishes to practice it of their wives, and among them are those who compose voluptuous courting love obscene profligate poetry and among them are those who blaspheme against God, and so on except for the Holy Koran which did not mention anything except about Moses when he unintentionally killed the Egyptian and immediately repented from God and Almighty God forgave him. Otherwise what he said against Zee El-Noun when he got fed up with his folk and was despondent of their reform so, he left them and went away. The result was that the whale swallowed him when he remained in its tummy suffering severe distress and anguish till God bestowed his mercy over him. This or that is not deemed as a sin as the murdering of the Egyptian was not meant but was committed erroneously and Moses remedied the whole situation at once and repented to God from the bottom of his heart regretting quivering seeking the protection of God against stoned Satan and intending to be more ***** in the times to come and never to be an advocate of atheists. God was good to him as he believed so He (God) forgave him because Almighty God knew that he was not to be blamed. Moreover, Zee El-Noun committed neither a sin nor an error. All he did was that he left his folk in despondency of reforming them after he experienced the worst at their hands while he invited them to his religion in vain. He should not have departed from them except after God allowed him to do so. This is all there is. There is no sin because prophets and messengers are the elite of Gods creation whom Almighty God chose them from among mankind. Thus, it does not make sense that they would be of this degraded criminal behaviour; otherwise, you may consider prophecy as obsolete. This absolutely logical because if prophets are not distinguished from others of people and were susceptible to fall in crimes and sins (not negligible errors which mankind can never escape entirely), then there is no need nor there is no sense of what is called prophethood and each prophet may go freely to take care of his own business, crying to the moon! Hence, the Korans neglect of mentioning the errors of Eissa does not mean that he was the only one among his fellow messengers concerning this; rather, this is the attitude of Koran towards all of them in general.
    We return as we promised to our preacher words about the prophet Mohamed PBUH : when Mohammed was a lad, two angels came to him and purified his heart. About this the Koran says:

    - 1- 3
    Have We not opened your breast for you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)). And removed from you your burden. Which weighed down your back? (Surat El-Enshrah 1-3)

    Since then, he acquired the honored title AlMustafa as he was not pure and purged in himself; rather the two angels removed the burden from his heart to purge it. Mohammed PBUH required a surgical operation on the heart in order to purify and purge his soul before he became a prophet and messenger of Allah. Muhammed himself admitted this three times in the Holy Koran that he should have repented to God:


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    є- 55.

    So be patient (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) Verily, the Promise of Allh is true, and ask forgiveness for your fault and glorify the praises of your Lord in the 'Ashi (i.e. the time period after the midnoon till sunset) and in the Ibkr (i.e. the time period from early morning or sunrise till before midnoon) (it is said that, that means the five compulsory congregational Salt (prayers) or the 'Asr and Fajr prayers).
    (Surat Ghafer Verse No. 55)

    - 19

    So know (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) that, L ilha ill-Allh (none has the right to be worshipped but Allh), and ask forgiveness for your sin, and also for (the sin of) believing men and believing women. And Allh knows well your moving about, and your place of rest (in your homes).
    (Surat Muhammed- Verse No. 19)

    - 37

    And (remember) when you said to him (Zaid bin Hrithah (may Allah be pleased with him) - the freed-slave of the Prophet (peace be upon him)) on whom Allh has bestowed Grace (by guiding him to Islm) and you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him) too) have done favor (by manumitting him): "Keep your wife to yourself, and fear Allh." But you did hide in yourself (i.e. what Allh has already made known to you that He will give her to you in marriage) that which Allh will make manifest, you did fear the people (i.e., their saying that Muhammad (peace be upon him) married the divorced wife of his manumitted slave) whereas Allh had a better right that you should fear Him. So when Zaid had accomplished his desire from her (i.e. divorced her), We gave her to you in marriage, so that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the believers in respect of (the marriage of) the wives of their adopted sons when the latter have no desire to keep them (i.e. they have divorced them). And Allh's Command must be fulfilled.
    (Surat Al-Ahzab- verse No. 37)

    It seems that the majority of Muslims refuses this truth and interprets it as they like. However, Koran here is clear and speaks frankly. Mohamed was a natural human being born by two natural parents. Therefore, he led a life of instinct and he erred like us and repented to God for his wrongdoings and sins. As for the Christ he was born from the spirit of God and he was the embodied word of God and lived glorified and purged since his early childhood.

    We start with the preachers interpretation of the Almighty God saying:
    - 1- 3
    Have We not opened your breast for you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)). And removed from you your burden. Which weighed down your back? (Surat El-Enshrah 1-3)

    Which he interpreted it to mean that the two angels came to him when he was a little boy cared for at the house of Halima El-Saadia according to what some writers of the Prophetic Traditions and they (the angels) extracted his heart, washed it, purified it and returned it to its first place. The truth is that if it was so, this would mean that Mohammed was purified before he committed any error. This in turn indicates that the messenger PBUH had a better luck than his brother Eissa who remained not baptized (i.e. he kept living in sin) till he exceeded thirty according to what is stated by scribers of gospels. That is baptism in Christianity means the purgation of the baptized of sins and helping him to repent. This is quite clear according to the following passage which we copied from the beginning of the third book of the Gospel of Mathew:
    " 2: ǡ . 3 : : . . 4 . . 5 6 . 7 : 8 . 9 : . : . 10 . 11 . . 12 .13 . 14 : ! 15 : . . 16 17 : ".
    3:1In those days, John the Baptizer came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea, saying, 3:2"Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!" 3:3For this is he who was spoken of by Isaiah the prophet, saying,
    "The voice of one crying in the wilderness,
    Make ready the way of the Lord,
    Make his paths straight."


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    3:4Now John himself wore clothing made of camel's hair, with a leather belt around his waist. His food was locusts and wild honey. 3:5Then people from Jerusalem, all of Judea, and all the region around the Jordan went out to him. 3:6They were baptized by him in the Jordan, confessing their sins. 3:7But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for his baptism, he said to them, "You offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 3:8Therefore bring forth fruit worthy of repentance! 3:9Don't think to yourselves, 'We have Abraham for our father,' for I tell you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.
    3:10"Even now the axe lies at the root of the trees. Therefore, every tree that doesn't bring forth good fruit is cut down, and cast into the fire. 3:11I indeed baptize you in water for repentance, but he who comes after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you in the Holy Spirit.[COLOR=window****]*[/COLOR] 3:12His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his threshing floor. He will gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn up with unquenchable fire."
    3:13Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to John, to be baptized by him. 3:14But John would have hindered him, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and you come to me?"
    3:15But Jesus, answering, said to him, "Allow it now, for this is the fitting way for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he allowed him. 3:16Jesus, when he was baptized, went up directly from the water: and behold, the heavens were opened to him. He saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming on him. 3:17Behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased."
    I would like to notice together how the heaven did not acknowledge the filiation of Jesus to God according to the belief of Christians except after baptizing i.e. after he was purged and repented. As for before that happened it was not recognized. In addition, when purgation of sins occurred, the devil came to test him and it was proven through his disobedience to this evil that baptism was effective. However, this did not forbid him from being disinterested later of arresting Yehia, his master and baptizer, his imprisonment and murder as he went to the wilderness with his disciples after the beheading of Yehia BPUH eating and drinking without shedding a tear for him or saying about him a word indicating that he was of interest fro them and as if Yehia was not terribly slaughtered nearby them. Moreover his baptism PBUH did not stop him, for example, to explain that he did not come to destroy the faith or law (which he confirmed that he would obliterate a single letter of it or even a dot on a letter of it till the heavens and earths are pass away i.e. till the day of judgment). However, he destroyed at once a number of its rulings and he nullified them as recorded in the fifth book of the Gospel of Mathew contradicting by this himself in a way that cannot be interpreted in any manner and condemning himself in such an unforgivable way according to his own words as he said:

    19Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven;


    "17 . . 18 : . 19 ǡ . . 20 : "
    5:17"Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn't come to destroy, but to fulfill. 5:18For most assuredly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one [COLOR=window****]smallest letter[/COLOR] or one [COLOR=window****]tiny pen stroke[/COLOR] shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished. 5:19Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whoever shall do and teach them shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 5:20For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
    And this is a sin and what a sin! In addition, he PBUH at the same time when he confirmed to his disciples that they should to love their enemies and bless their offenders and not to love only those who love them, we see him after that in the same speech turn to them and to those following him of the crowds accusing them of having little faith (Gospel of Mathew 6/31 & 8/26)
    6:31"Therefore don't be anxious, saying, 'What will we eat?', 'What will we drink?' or, 'With what will we be clothed?' 6:32For the Gentiles seek after all these things, for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 6:33But seek first God's Kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things will be given to you as well. 6:34Therefore don't be anxious for tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Each day's own evil is sufficient.
    8:26He said to them, "Why are you fearful, oh you of little faith?" Then he got up, rebuked the wind and the sea, and there was a great calm.

    calling each of them O, hypocrite:

    7:5You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.
    And describing them as evil. (7/11)
    7:11If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

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    This and the like and worse than it was repeated by him in different places of gospels as we all know. Then he was praying once when one of his disciples asked him to teach them how to pray and he taught them how to pray as follows according to what is stated in the eleventh book of the Gospel of Luke:

    : "1 : . 2 : : . 3 4 ǡ "


    1 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples. 2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say,

    Our Father which art in heaven,
    Hallowed be thy name.
    Thy kingdom come.
    Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
    3 Give us day by day our daily bread.
    4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us.
    And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

    What does then his command to them to say like him and forgive for us our sins mean? It means that he asked God to forgive for himself his sins. On the whole, the Messiah PBUH was decisive when he asserted:
    "11 : " (/ 11)
    11:11Most assuredly I tell you, among those who are born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptizer; yet he who is least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he

    i.e Yehia according to his own judgment was better than him. Isnt Jesus one of those begotten by women? Furthermore, he PBUH settled the matter when he was asked by a ruler:
    18 : 19 : ǿ " (/ 18).


    18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

    Now what are the wrongdoings committed by Mohammed PBUH in the opinion of our own revered preacher? Lets leave him say what he wants to say freely:
    Mohamed personally admitted three times in the Holy Koran that he should have asked For Gods forgiveness

    є- 55.

    So be patient (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) Verily, the Promise of Allh is true, and ask forgiveness for your fault and glorify the praises of your Lord in the 'Ashi (i.e. the time period after the midnoon till sunset) and in the Ibkr (i.e. the time period from early morning or sunrise till before midnoon) (it is said that, that means the five compulsory congregational Salt (prayers) or the 'Asr and Fajr prayers).
    (Surat Ghafer Verse No. 55)

    - 19

    So know (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) that, L ilha ill-Allh (none has the right to be worshipped but Allh), and ask forgiveness for your sin, and also for (the sin of) believing men and believing women. And Allh knows well your moving about, and your place of rest (in your homes).
    (Surat Muhammed- Verse No. 19)


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