Without Muslims ... !!??

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    Your logic is the same which a feresy jew would say that Jesus only should address them not the other sects of the jews , to a christian there is no such thing Jesus addresses all the israelites !!!

    Same here God addresses all the claims , we do not belive what you claim is true so to us there is no difference

    They worshipped her so I think even though they did not consider her a goddess , they sure treated her as so

    I think the word worship speaks for itself

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    This is true, but Catholics also worshipped and pray to different saints. The Quran only mentions Jesus, Mary and Allah, there is no mention of saints or the Holy Spirit; therefore, a child can logically infer Allah's understanding of the three were son, mother and father. it doesn't take a Biblical or Quranic scholar to see this.

    No, Christians or Catholic worships or believes in such a trinity as implied by Allah. In my opinion, Islam's prophet didn't research Christian belief deep enough in the 7th century and now Muslims have to dream up excuses for a clear and obvious discrepancy to everyone but them, uhm, that makes me wonder.

    In fact, the information that the third person of the trinity was and is the Holy Spirit and not Allah to Christians was accessible to your prophet in the 7th century. Perhaps what confused him was the belief that the Holy Spirit was Gabriel instead of God. Still Muslims today believe that Gabriel is the Holy Spirit, but he is only an angle messenger, and not the Holy Spirit who is God.
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    This is true, but Catholics also worshipped and pray to different saints. The Quran only mentions Jesus, Mary and Allah, there is no mention of saints or the Holy Spirit; therefore, a child can logically infer Allah's understanding of the three were son, mother and father. it doesn't take a Biblical or Quranic scholar to see this.

    No, Christians or Catholic worships or believes in such a trinity as implied by Allah. In my opinion, Islam's prophet didn't research Christian belief deep enough in the 7th century and now Muslims have to dream up excuses for a clear and obvious discrepancy to everyone but them, uhm, that makes me wonder.

    In fact, the information that the third person of the trinity was and is the Holy Spirit and not Allah to Christians was accessible to your prophet in the 7th century. Perhaps what confused him was the belief that the Holy Spirit was Gabriel instead of God. Still Muslims today believe that Gabriel is the Holy Spirit, but he is only an angle messenger, and not the Holy Spirit who is God.
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    Again your logic is twisted

    The quran addresses claims about jesus and his family and his status as a prophet from a virgin mother , so the worship of other saints as you said

    More importantly they did not worship saints they did not elevate their status to such the status which they elevated Mary (mother of God)!!!!

    So your comparison does not work

    As for trinity I have alrady shoed you the interpritations plus the verse in the quran never mentioned that Mary was part of the trinity , as I have described if Mary was then she would have been mentioned in the verse since God and Jesus were mentioned , it is simple

    The rest of your claims are just laughable !!!!
    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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