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    It is a sign of respect from muslims to all prophets but the fact is that this question shaws a hidden jelousy from your side. I mean why do you still call Abraham our father abraham, simple it is a description and a sign of respect so what is the problem when we say that peace is upon the messengers !!!
    In fact why do some christians call NMary peace be upon her the holy mother ???

    lol... At hidden jealousy.. What an idea!!! :) we don't see the need to wish peace upon the prophets every time we say their name as we know they already have peace in Jesus. As a sign of respect from yourselves unto the prophets I have no problem with it. Do you mean Catholics? Calling Mary Holy mother... You will have to ask a catholic that question. I don't believe it is Biblical so I would not use the term.. I can respect her for the pious woman whom God chose to do His will in bringing His Word to the world.. I don't believe this means she was Holy..

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    lol... At hidden jealousy.. What an idea!!! :) we don't see the need to wish peace upon the prophets every time we say their name as we know they already have peace in Jesus. As a sign of respect from yourselves unto the prophets I have no problem with it. Do you mean Catholics? Calling Mary Holy mother... You will have to ask a catholic that question. I don't believe it is Biblical so I would not use the term.. I can respect her for the pious woman whom God chose to do His will in bringing His Word to the world.. I don't believe this means she was Holy..

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    lol apparantly someone does not know the difference between a prayer and a wish

    even in that same sense that you are saying , if somebody now prays or lets say wishes blessings to fall upon for example say peter would that be as if somebody is saying that peter needs our prayers !!!!

    if a christian said god bless paul would that mean that paul needs that blessing or he won't be blessed

    from what it seems like it is jelousy , jelousy from the way muslims regards the prophet of god

    if not then you would not have responded to a simple prayer
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    Sorry I'm not getting the jealousy.. Though I am getting your arrogance.. I will pray for you to the God of Abraham and all the prophets. I will also wish Gods blessings upon you as I would wish all to know the whole world over they are blest by God.

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    Sorry I'm not getting the jealousy.. Though I am getting your arrogance.. I will pray for you to the God of Abraham and all the prophets. I will also wish Gods blessings upon you as I would wish all to know the whole world over they are blest by God.

    peace
    ِApparantly you did not answer, howver I will pray for you to the god of jesus the messiah :

    29 Jesus answered, “The most important is: ‘Listen, Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.

    Mark 12: 29
    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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    ِApparantly you did not answer, howver I will pray for you to the god of jesus the messiah :

    29 Jesus answered, “The most important is: ‘Listen, Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.

    Mark 12: 29
    We Christians accept that God is one with no partners or associates. It is you Muslims that don't accept what we believe. This is because what we believe is spiritually discerned truth from God that the carnal man cannot understand. Jesus said, "You must be born again" to be able to understand and have spiritual life over spiritual death. If we are only born once, we will die twice; if we are born twice we die only once!
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    We Christians accept that God is one with no partners or associates. It is you Muslims that don't accept what we believe. This is because what we believe is spiritually discerned truth from God that the carnal man cannot understand. Jesus said, "You must be born again" to be able to understand and have spiritual life over spiritual death. If we are only born once, we will die twice; if we are born twice we die only once!
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    Again with the claims :

    Who belives in trinity is it the muslims or the christians , if you say that trinity is the same as monotheism then you have a big problem because this would make the hindus and ancient egyptians monotheits , since hindus believe in 33 million gods who are entities of one god Brahma!!!!

    As for your answer it is simply saying that in order to understand christianity you have to become christian and believe in trinity !!!! forgive me but this is a ridicolous response since with a response like this we should all just stop debating and just convert to each other's religion without debating !!!! In this case no body would be able to preach to others

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    Again with the claims :

    Who belives in trinity is it the muslims or the christians , if you say that trinity is the same as monotheism then you have a big problem because this would make the hindus and ancient egyptians monotheits , since hindus believe in 33 million gods who are entities of one god Brahma!!!!

    As for your answer it is simply saying that in order to understand christianity you have to become christian and believe in trinity !!!! forgive me but this is a ridicolous response since with a response like this we should all just stop debating and just convert to each other's religion without debating !!!! In this case no body would be able to preach to others

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    Listen, I believe God is one. I cannot explain the tri unity of God anymore than you can explain His oneness. Explain what you mean by God is one. A person can be one and yet have a soul, spirit and body yet he is one not three. I am not saying this explains the trinity concept, but I am trying to saying to say that God is Spirit and Jesus is His word; God is holy; therefore, He is the Holy Spirit. How God can make His word and holiness distinct persons I don't understand, but it is like nothing on this earth so you really have no excuse to reject this clear concept from Scripture accept for your religion blinds you, and that is not good enough for me to accept your position. BTW, I am going out of the country to Honduras to help the poor. I'll be back in two weeks.

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    Listen, I believe God is one. I cannot explain the tri unity of God anymore than you can explain His oneness. Explain what you mean by God is one. A person can be one and yet have a soul, spirit and body yet he is one not three. I am not saying this explains the trinity concept, but I am trying to saying to say that God is Spirit and Jesus is His word; God is holy; therefore, He is the Holy Spirit. How God can make His word and holiness distinct persons I don't understand, but it is like nothing on this earth so you really have no excuse to reject this clear concept from Scripture accept for your religion blinds you, and that is not good enough for me to accept your position. BTW, I am going out of the country to Honduras to help the poor. I'll be back in two weeks.

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    First Jesus had a physical body and a soul does this mean we have four elements instead of three???

    Second If trinity was such a complex matter why not at least mention it in the bible ????

    Third : I think when everybody says god is one it is clear the only god nothing like him has not begotten has not begot , but to distinguish him into three and say the three are like the one thats contradictory to the fact that nobody is in the likeness of god so in return this kind of resembles the hindu and ancient roman and egyptian religions some of whom had the worship of trinitarian godesses

    Fourth : The concept of trinity was not present in the first 200 years almost , it took its form in the councel of nicea by ROMAN INFLUENCE !!!! Why , why such an important theological matter is not introduced or at least mentioned in first and second centuries of the christian religion??? Why did it have to come after a certain Roman influence ???

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    It is a sign of respect from muslims to all prophets but the fact is that this question shaws a hidden jelousy from your side.

    the Lord says :

    Many of the People of the Scripture wish they could turn you back to disbelief after you have believed, out of envy from themselves [even] after the truth has become clear to them. So pardon and overlook until Allah delivers His command. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent.


    the holy Qura'n 2 : 109



    May God bless you brother.

    Amen.



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    الدين.

    آمين... آمين... آمين.



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