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    CAN SCIENCE HELP US IN OUR DECISION?

    SCIENCE 101)
    THE BIBLE GETS COSMOLOGY COMPLETELY WRONG!

    Genesis 1:3-5 There was evening and morning one day. This statement indicates that the first thing created was the day and night. However, we know that day and night would come after the existence of the sun and through its rise and set. However, verse 14 from the same chapter indicates that the sun was created on the fourth day, God made two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. Genesis 1:11 states that vegetations, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees were created on the third day: But we know that vegetations and plants could not grow without sun, while Genesis 1:16 tells us that the sun was created on the fourth day. Moreover, Genesis Chapter 2 contradicts the first chapter. The first chapter has stated that vegetations and plants and the trees were created on the third day, before the creation of man, who was created on the sixth day; however, Genesis Chapter 2:5-9 tells us that man was created before vegetation and plants
    Moreover, Genesis 1:14-19 describes the creation of the sun, moon and stars on the fourth day, after the creation of the earth on the third day. Our modern knowledge of the formation of the solar system does not allow us to state that the sun, moon, and stars came into being after the creation of the earth. Scientists tell us that stars eventually exploded and recondensed over numerous cycles, forming the heavy elements that LATER condensed into the earth.

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    THE QURAN GETS COSMOLOGY COMPLETELY CORRECT!

    THE BIG BANG CAME FIRST According to scientists, the big bang is how the universe began.

    Quran 21:30 Do not those who disbelieve see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, but we have opened them. Translation M.H. Shakir, Yusaf Ali

    THEN CAME A VAPOR/GAS THAT WAS DESTINED TO BE THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH DURING THIS OPEN STATE - Scientists tell us that after the big bang, plasma formed and later cooled to gases (helium and hydrogen).
    Quran 41:11 Moreover, he directed himself to the heaven and it was a vapor. Yusaf Ali

    THE CREATION OF THE HEAVENS: Scientists tell us that eventually, the gases condensed into stars.
    Quran 41:12 So he ordained them seven heavens in two periods, and revealed in every heaven its affair; and We adorned the lower heaven with brilliant stars and made it to guard; that is the decree of the Mighty, the knowing. -Translation M.H. Shakir

    THE EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE- Scientists claim that the universe is expanding.
    Quran 51:47 With power and skill did we construct the heaven: For it is we who expand the vastness of Space. -Translation Yusaf Ali, Maurice Bucaille

    EARTH IS COMPLETED AFTER THE HEAVENS - Scientists tell us that stars eventually exploded and recondensed over numerous cycles, forming the heavy elements that LATER condensed into the earth.

    Quran 79:27-30 Are you the harder to create or the heaven? He made it. He raised high its height, then put it into a right good state. And he made dark its night and brought out its light (i.e. stars). And the earth, he expanded it AFTER that. -Translation M.H. SHAKIR

    SCIENCE 102) THE BIBLE SAYS THE EARTH IS FLAT!
    Isaiah 11:12
    And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel , and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)
    Revelation 7:1
    And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (RSV)
    Luke 4:5 The devil led him up to a high mountain and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. (NIV) Jesus is said to be capable of seeing all the Kingdoms of Earth from the top of a really tall place. Of course, this would be impossible if the Earth was spherical. Christopher Columbus almost suffered a mutiny in the 15th century because his crew feared falling over the edge of the Earth.
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    THE QURAN SAYS THE EARTH IS ROUND!

    Quran, 79:30: God created heaven, and after that he round shaped the earth. -Translation M.H. Shakir
    The Arabic word being translated here Dahaha is translated as "expand;" however, it has another meaning in the Arabic language and that is round shaped or egg shaped.

    SCIENCE 103) THE BIBLE SAYS THE SUN IS MOVING AROUND THE EARTH
    "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)
    "The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises. (From the NIV Bible, Ecclesiastes 1:5)
    "And the sun stood still...So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day." (From the NIV Bible, Joshua 10:13 ) This verse reports that the sun stood still so Joshua could finish all of his killing before darkness came. This implies that the sun had to have been moving in the first place in order for it to in any way come to a stop
    Then the prophet Isaiah called upon the Lord, and the Lord made the shadow go back the ten steps it had gone down on the stairway of Ahaz. (From the NIV Bible, 2 Kings 20:11 ) An equally ridiculous notion in the Bible is that the sun went backwards 10 degrees on the sundial one day - again implying that the sun moved, stopped, reversed, stopped, then proceeded forward again.
    Not only does the Bible support a moving sun - it was simply common sense. Only a fool would look up at the sky and say that the sun did not move! These phenomena are simply due to Earth?s rotation andNOT by Sun?s rotation. Sun is stationary for Earth, because earth is stuck in the sun?s Gravity, like we are stuck in earth?s gravity. Does the bible ever mention that the earth or any other planet rotates, like the Quran does? The answer regrettably for Christians and Jews is no.
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    THE QURAN SAYS THE EARTH IS ROTATING

    Quran, 21:33
    "It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) rotate (falak), each in their celestial spheres." Yusaf Ali, M.H. Shakir

    The Arabic word "falak" used for planets and planets' movements in Verse 21:33 means rotation or movement. The Quran states that all celestial bodies including the earth rotate.?
    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

    تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
    اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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    yes the bible does say these insane things but do people really believe this now?( except the people in the flat earth society; yes its a real thing go check it out, its pretty funny)
    The best knowledge anyone can achieve is learning from their mistakes this is basically the definition of evolution. I tend to think of the Koran as a revised version of the bible removing all of the ridiculous verses in the bible and putting some of the more reasonable ideologies into Koran not to mention some of the ideologies that Muhammad had. Yes there are flaws in the Koran as well but Muhammad is human too. We all human, we accidently cut our selves when cutting food or we get into car mishaps. The moral of this story is that we all make mistakes, Jesus, Buddha, Abraham, even Muhammad makes mistakes and we should learn from those mistakes. If we don't learn from those mistakes where would we be right now?
    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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    You can not charge the Koran something without proof (I warn you)

    Prophet Muhammad is mortal but the Koran the word of God

    No revised version of the Bible and the whole typeface

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    The moral of this story is that we all make mistakes, Jesus, Buddha, Abraham, even Muhammad makes mistakes and we should learn from those mistakes. If we don't learn from those mistakes where would we be right now?
    The words of the wrong product for your faith is the lack of respect for the Jewishprophets of God

    Prophets do not make mistakes
    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

    تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
    اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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    I did not mean to offend you in any way, but if i did i am truly sorry. The reason i said that was because since the Bible is older then the Koran, Prophet Muhammad probably knew about the Bible and Jesus and even talked about him in the Koran along with the Torah and Abraham. Most likely he read both the Bible and the Torah. So my conclusion was to assume that Prophet Muhammad contrasted with the Bible and wrote the Koran with the help of God.(Please don't take this the wrong way, i do not mean to tarnish anyone)
    Also what is wrong with making mistakes? Would you consider some of the many authors of the Bible made mistakes(simply because they did not know), such as the people above that believed that the earth was flat?
    Last edited by Authentic Man; 29-06-2013 at 12:24 PM.
    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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    Dear vietazan, please show respect to our prophet, so add the word "prophet" to his name or say "the prophet of Islam", but do not mention his name " Muhammad" without a title
    من هنا نبدأ ... وفي الجنة نلتقي
    إن شاء الله

    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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    Sincerely sorry about that Authentic Man, i will be sure not make that mistake again or in any other forms i reply to.
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    I tend to think of the Koran as a revised version of the bible removing all of the ridiculous verses in the bible and putting some of the more reasonable ideologies into Koran not to mention some of the ideologies that Prophet Muhammad had. even Prophet Muhammed makes mistakes.
    Let's think together, The God is one, Allah.
    He sent His messengers to people to guide them to His desired Path.
    He told them that He is that there is no god but Him.
    He guides people to worshipping Him in the way He likes, and to treat others in a good way.
    So, if we spotlight Torah, the Bible and the Koran and avoid the messages sent by Paul the Apostle, for somehow we find them call for worshipping the only God.
    But the thing is, both Torah and the Bible were written by humans long after Jesus, so the humane features, impressions, guessing ...etc. were found, i.e. distortion.
    But the Holy Koran, because it is the last divine book to the earth, Allah undertook saving the Koran from changing or distortion.
    The Koran has not only some stories of ex-eras, but it has told the future which happened exactly as it describes.
    It's a complete legislation to humans in which it contains , The Quran worship, legal provisions, social relations, transactions, the first centuries stories, the paradise promise to worshippers, intimidating of punishment to sinners if they don't repent to God and Science.
    One more thing, the Holy Koran is divine revelation not human's, that's why it was and still challenging to create even 10 verses like it. No mistake ever can be found. simply because it's Divine.
    من هنا نبدأ ... وفي الجنة نلتقي
    إن شاء الله

    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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Bible vs. Quran (Cosmology, Geocentrism Beliefs, etc)

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