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    SEEKING THE TRUTH SERIES (2)
    GOD IN CHRISTIANITY
    WHAT IS HIS NATURE?
    Dr. NAJI I. AL-ARFAJ
    اﻹله في النصرانﯿة
    د. ناجي بن إبراهﯿم العرفج.
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    Pre-reading questions:
    1-What is the nature of god in Christianity?
    2-Is God one or three(Trinity)?
    3-Is Jesus equal with god?
    4-Is Jesus God or part of God?
    5-Is Jesus a son of man or son of God?
    6-So, who is Jesus really?
    7-What is your opinion?
    (pleas read the following text carefully, critically, and without any preconceptions!)
    …………………………………………………………..
    As a seeker of the truth and a student of life, and after many years of observation,
    Research and comparative study, it appears to me that people often base their beliefs and judgments
    On weak, sandy foundations. Rather than on the solid foundations of rock that Jesus recommended.
    Concerning the topic at hand, I have noticed some major differences between what is
    commonly and officially understood about god in Christianity, and what the Bible itself states!
    In this booklet, I would like to share with you-out of love and concern what I have noticed and
    Learned through my continuous journey of research, analysis, and study.
    The intent of this work is to honestly and sincerely present the truth that I found, not to
    Hurt the feelings of anyone.
    Now let us turn to discuss some issues and questions concerning the nature of god In Christianity,
    namely the trinity and divinity of Jesus.
    Jesus said "Seek the truth and the truth will set you free"
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    Is God one or three
    Is Jesus God or part of God?
    What do you think??
    What is your answer??
    Let us get the answer from the Bible:
    One came and said unto him, Good Master, what good
    Thing shall I do. That I may have eternal life? And he(Jesus)
    Said unto him, why callest thou me good*? There is none good
    But one, that is, God. But if thou wilt enter into life, keep the
    Commandments.
    (Matthew 19:16-17)
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    *Why callest thou me good? Or in modern English " why do you call me good "we
    Would not find this wording and meaning in some Bible! This text is found in king James
    Version. Don`t take my word for it! Chick your Bible!
    Several questions can be asked about the above verses. Some of the more intuitive ones are:
    >"why do you call me good?" why did Jesus question his own goodness?
    >Jesus emphatically stated that "there is none good but one, that is, God"
    Why did he refer to the one God as the " good" one only?
    >Why did he exclude himself from being good, if he were God?
    >Jesus explicitly pointed out that " if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
    Why didn`t Jesus command the questioner to believe in him (Jesus) as God in order
    To enter into eternal life?
    >Based on Jesus` testimony, Isn`t keeping the commandments enough for getting
    Eternal life?
    Now, let us re-read verses of Matthew (19:16-17) as stated in King James
    Version and the same verses as reported in the New International Version
    Of the HOLY BIBLE.
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    .One came and said unto him, Good Master, what good
    Thing shall I do. That I may have eternal life? And he
    Said unto him, why callest thou me good? There is none good
    But one, that is, God.
    (in king James version)
    .Now a man came up to Jesus and asked "Teacher, what
    good thing must I do to get eternal life?"
    "why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied.
    "there is only one who is good. If you want to enter life,
    obey the commandments."
    (in the new international version).
    To make is easy to compare, here are Jesus` two different questions:
    According to King James version (KJV), in simple English, Jesus asked:
    *Why do you CALL ME GOOD?
    But, according to the New International Version (NIV), Jesus said:
    *Why do you ASK ME ABOUT WHAT IS GOOD?
    Please honestly camper between Jesus` question in the King James Version and
    His questions in the New International Version. Do they have the same
    Meaning? Can they both be correct?
    Going back to the critical question, Is Jesus God?, I think that if Jesus
    Were God or part of God, his logical response would be to approve of what the
    Questioner called him (i.e., "Good Master").
    Sound reasoning and plain logic tell us that God is good. And if Jesus were
    God or part of God (part of the Trinity) he MUST BE GOOD! Don`t
    you agree?
    Presumably, some of the possible, expected response that Jesus cold utter in response
    To the young man saying "Good Master" include:
    #"certainly, I am good, for I am god."
    #"you are right. I am good"
    #or at least, knowing that he was obviously good, being God or a manifestation of
    God, Jesus could have answered the young man without taking issue
    with his words by saying:
    *"if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandment"
    But, astonishingly, Jesus responded to the young man`s words "Good Master"
    With something unexpected! He denied that he was good, wondering, "why do you call
    Me good?"
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    So, instead of denying his goodness, wouldn`t it have been more reasonable
    For Jesus to seize this occasion and acknowledge that he was good, since he was God or
    A manifestation of the one God, if such were the case? Why would he refer to the true God
    Alone, and not reveal his own `good` divinity? Was he hiding the truth about himself from
    the questioner?
    .Now this is life eternal, that they know you, the ONLY
    True God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
    (john 17:3)
    In this verse, Jesus again distinguishes himself from the ONLY true God! It is this true God
    who created and sent Jesus. So, who has the full authority to command and send? The ONLY
    true God or Jesus? Who is greater, the one who orders and sends or the one who is
    ordered and sent?
    .There is one God and one mediator between God
    And men, the man Christ Jesus.
    (1 Timothy 2:4)
    This verse points to two identities:
    (1) one God, and (2) one mediator (Jesus)! Jesus is described as " the man"
    the verse did not call him " the God Christ Jesus " in fact, nowhere in the Bible is Jesus called
    God!!.
    To further discuss and answer the question, Is Jesus God or part of God?, let us
    Carefully, critically, and objectively read the following parts of verses reported in Matthew 4:1-10
    * Then Jesus was led by the spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.
    * After fasting forty days and forty night, he was hungry.
    * Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all
    The kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
    * He (the devil) said to him ( Jesus), "All these I will give you, if you will
    Fall down and worship me".
    Let me share with you some of the questions and thoughts that stroke my mind
    After reading the above verses:
    1) The Bible says, " Jesus was led by the spirit into the desert…" I wonder who has
    more authority and more power, Jesus or the spirit? Why didn`t Jesus lead himself
    to the desert if he were God? Does God need someone to lead him?
    2) Based on the testimony of the above verses, the devil (Satan) tempted Jesus
    who is considered to be God by some Christians. The simple and logical question
    that could be raised is: Can God be tempted?
    The same Bible tells us that God can`t be tempted! This fact is uttered by Jesus, in the same story
    Of temptation. Similarly, James, the brother of Jesus,
    Said:
    Did these verses trigger any questions or thoughts in you mind?
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    *" God cannot be tempted by evil, and he
    himself tempts no one.
    (James 1:13)
    3) The Bible reports that "after fasting forty days and forty nights, he (Jesus) was
    hungry" analyzing this verse, let`s reason together:
    > Does God fast?
    > To whom was Jesus fasting? To himself as God or to someone who
    is greater than him?
    > Does God feel hungry or thirsty?
    4) in the story of `the temptation of Jesus` (you find this heading in several Bible)
    we came to discover that the devil (Satan) moved and controlled Jesus! Did Satan
    do that with Jesus the man or Jesus the God? If Satan did that with Jesus the man, what
    is the point? And if the devil did that with Jesus the God, can God be tried, moved, and controlled?
    Let`s remember James` word, "God cannot be tempted by evil.."
    At the end of the dialogue between Jesus and Satan and after Satan asked Jesus to
    "fall down and worship" him, Jesus said to the devil:
    *worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only"
    (Matthew 4"10)
    I assume. If Jesus were God incarnate, he might have easily responded, " no Satan, it is
    You who must fall down and worship me, your God!" but instead he invoked the above
    Scripture about worshipping the true God ONLY.
    On the other hand, we learned from the story that:
    > Satan SAW Jesus.
    > Satan SAID TO Jesus.
    > Satan HEARD Jesus.
    > Satan TOOK Jesus.
    > Satan SHOWED Jesus.
    > Satan SPOKE WITH Jesus.
    (please read the whole story of the temptation of Jesus, Matthew 4:1-10)
    But, the Bible emphatically indicates that GOD CANNOT BE SEEN OR HEARD.
    *NO one has ever seen him. And no one can see him.
    (1 Timothy 6:16)
    *you have never heard His voice nor seen His shape.
    (John 5:37)
    *Now to the king eternal, immortal, invisible, the only
    God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen
    (1 Timothy 1:17)
    Additionally, before I conclude this section, let me ask: During Jesus` life on earth
    Didn`t his family, people, and followers see and hear him?
    Therefore, according to the description of God in the above verses, Jesus cannot be
    God. Isn`t this reasonable and logical? So, what is truth? Think about it!
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    # Are God the father, God the son, and God the Holy Spirit EQUAL?
    #Is God the son (Jesus) EQUAL with God the father?
    #Is God the son (Jesus) EQUAL with God the Holy Spirit?
    Let us see what Jesus himself says:
    *My father is greater than I (Jesus)
    (John 14:28)
    *My father, who gave them to me, is greater than all.
    (John 10:29)
    *What I teach is not my own teaching, but it comes from God,
    who sent me.
    (John 5:30)
    *I can of my own self do nothing: as I hear,
    I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek
    Not my own will, but the will of the father who has
    Sent me.
    (John 5:30)
    * No one knows, however, when that day or hour will
    come neither the angels in heaven, nor the son; only the
    Father Knows.
    (mark 13:32)
    *Anyone who says something against the son of man
    can be forgiven, but whoever says something against
    the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven-now or ever.
    (Matthew 12:32)
    After reading these clear-cut statements as well as many others
    Spoken by Jesus himself, what can we conclude?
    Based on Jesus` honest and frank testimony that the only true God (the Father)
    Is greater than him and greater than the Holy Spirit, that what he teaches is not his,
    That he and Holy Spirit know nothing about the last day, and that he can do nothing of himself,
    A sincere seeker of the truth should accept what Jesus says about himself and not make
    Him God or the equal of God!
    Let me discuss another significant question.
    #Is Jesus the only son of God?
    Let us get the answer from the Bible:
    *Adam is the son of God.
    (Luke 3:38)
    *Israel is my first-born son.
    (Exodus 4:22)
    Now let us turn to discuss other critical questions!
    ???
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    *The Lord has said unto me, thou art my son; this
    day have I begotten thee."
    (Psalms 2:7,KJM).
    So, according to the Bible, and announced by the Father himself,
    David is another begotten Son {with a capital `S`}!!
    *Blessed are the peacemaker, for they will be called
    sons of God.
    (Matthew 5:9)
    Tracing this title : son of God" in the Bible, we can find many "sons of God"
    and that Jesus is not the only son.
    It can be concluded that the Bible uses this title" son of God" figuratively to mean
    Righteous, pious, selected, or God-conscious.
    THIS LEADS US TO THE CRUCIAL QUESTION WHICH WE MUST
    ASK!!
    #So, who was Jesus?
    After discussing evidence from the Bible that God is one, NOT THREE, that
    Jesus is not God or part of God, that he is not equal with God, and that
    He is not the son of God in the literal sense, we must ask: so , who was Jesus?
    & Jesus the man
    The times that Jesus is referred to as `man` or `son of man` in the
    Bible are many. Below are just some verses:
    *ye men of Israel , hear these word; Jesus
    of Nazareth, was a MAN approved of God among
    you by miracles, wonders, and signs.
    (Acts 2:22)
    These words were uttered by peter, a very dear friend and follower
    of Jesus, and he witnessed things closely.
    *the son of MAN came eating and drinking.
    (Matthew 11:19)
    *this MAN is really the prophet.
    (John 7:40)
    *Now ye seek to kill me, a MAN that hath told you
    the truth, which I have heard of God.
    (John 8:40 KJV, some Bible do not reveal this truth! Check your Bible!).
    At this critical moment of life, Jesus testified himself that he is " a man"
    why didn`t he clearly and openly say: "Now you seek to kill me, God incarnate,
    who has told you the truth." Is it possible that he was hiding the truth?
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    & Jesus the prophet
    *this is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth.
    (Matthew 21:11)
    *Jesus said, "A prophet is never accepted in his
    home town."
    (Luke 4:24)
    *I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than
    his master, nor is a messenger greater than
    the one who sent him.
    (John 13:16)
    *Surely this is the prophet who is to come into
    the word.
    (John 24:19)
    These are just some of the many Biblical verses which point out that
    Jesus was a prophet and a messenger of the one true God! Again, nowhere
    in the Bible he is called God.
    A final CRITICAL AND SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF INFORMATION ABOUT
    JESUS!
    >What are the implications and conclusions that we can derive from the
    above-cited Biblical texts?
    Conclusions:
    The above statements from the Bible from the a coherent message that there is
    Only one God
    "….I am the only God besides me there is
    No other God; there never was and never will be.
    I alone am the LORD, the only one who can save
    You"
    (Isaiah 43:10-11)
    "I am the Lord your God and I tolerate on partners."
    (Exodus 20:5)
    Hundreds of similar statements occur in the Bible, as compared to just a few which
    contradict them*
    *please see the notes following these conclusions.
    " In his life on earth Jesus made his prayers
    and requests with loud cries and tears to God
    who could save him from death. Because he
    was humble and devoted, God heard him."
    (Hebrews 5:7)
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    A final thought….
    After reading this booklet carefully, critically and
    Open-mindedly; a sincere, honest, and serious
    Seeker of the truth might raise questions like:
    # So, what is the truth?
    # Who is the true God?
    # What is his true message?
    # What went wrong?
    These questions and other will be discussed in upcoming writings,
    God willing
    References
    1-the Holy Bible King James Version.
    2-Good news Bible. Today`s English version.
    3-Holy Bible. New International Version.
    4-Holy Bible. revised standard version.
    5-The Bible library. 29 works on one CD-ROM disc, it includes 9 Bible.
    And 20 Biblical references.1995 Ellis
    6-The Multi-Bible CD-ROM. Innotech multimedia, Inc. Ontario, Canada.
    7-Several web sites from the internet.
    8-Information and feedback from my public lectures` audience and my
    Weekly TV program`s viewers.
    Useful web sites:
    www.sultan.org
    www.al-sunnah.com
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    i hope that Christians find the truth because the truth shall guide them inshallah

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