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    I want to know what does he create
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    Salam,
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    I want to know what does he create
    that is a simple question
    what does he create ?
    what things can he do and the father not ?


    If you know Arabic more than me that open your eyes and read what I gave you to read. There is written that EVERYTHING is created by Ibn Allah!
    He is the Creator! He is equal to His Father and His Father gave Him all power. God have put ALL THINGS in subjection under feet of Ibn Allah. It means His Father gave Him ALL POWER!!! Ibn Allah is Allmighty! Lets read about it:

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    John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

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    5 For He has not put the world to come, of which we speak, in subjection to angels. 6 But one testified in a certain place, saying:

    What is man that You are mindful of him,
    Or the son of man that You take care of him?
    7 You have made him a little lower than the angels;
    You have crowned him with glory and honor,
    And set him over the works of Your hands.
    8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet.
    For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we do not yet see all things put under him. 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.
    Bringing Many Sons to Glory

    10 For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. 11 For both He who sanctifies and those who are being sanctified are all of one, for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren, 12 saying:


    I will declare Your name to My brethren;
    In the midst of the assembly I will sing praise to You.
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    I will put My trust in Him.
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    Here am I and the children whom God has given Me.

    14 Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16 For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham. 17 Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.

    Hebrews 2:5-18

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    Salam,

    if your Arabic is better then my Arabic then let's read what is written here and I will comment on it bellow:

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    What do we see here? We clearly see that Ibn Allah said that He is EQUAL to His Father Allah and that ONLY He is going to give salvation from hell to all Arabs and Muslims through their FAITH in Him. Look":

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    Then He said that He willingly was going to accept death. He said that He shas POWER to accept death because He is the Almighty God who created the universe:

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    What does it mean? Jesus predicted here that soon He should be killed on the cross and resurrected.

    Why did people wanted to kill Him?
    Because He claimed to be God. Equal to His Father!!!

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    It is christianity: Ibn Allah is equal to His Father. The same way like prince of the King in Saudi Arabia also belongs to the royal family and has power which is given to him by his father. God the Father gave all power to Ibn Allah.
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    WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE ON THE LAST DAY AT THE 2ND COMING OF JESUS??

    Brothers, lets continue to consider and ponder on what our God said about the last time events. God gave us the prophecies about these last time events to prepare us to be ready and meet Him in righteousness and holiness. Even millions of people, who say that they are Christians, will be judged by God!!! Because God is JUST and RIGHTEOUS. Why these Christians will be judged? Because millions of them are GOATS and NOT SHEEP. They have different nature- they live in sins. Even if you try to correct them and show them the right path (of salvation and righteousness and holy life) leading to God, they refuse to go this way!!!
    Look what I said the other day to Christians:

    Brothers,
    We all know what God is teaching us in the Holy Bible:
    Faith Without Works Is Dead.
    But which works does God require us to have?
    Works of LOVE for people and God.
    If you do not have evident fruit of love for people and God expressed in your good acts,
    it means that your faith is DEAD.
    It means you are not a Christian.
    It means that God considers you as an unbeliever/ sinner and He is going to judge you during the Judgment Day for your sins. Why? Because ONLY righteous people, holy people will enter the Holy dwelling place of God.
    Let me remind you: O foolish man, that faith without works is dead! Show us your FAITH which will exceed the faith of demons and unbelievers expressed in your works of love for people and God!

    Faith Without Works Is Dead

    What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works?
    Can faith save him?
    If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them,
    Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,
    but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit?
    Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
    But someone will say,
    You have faith, and I have works.
    Show me your faith without your works,
    and I will show you my faith by my works.
    You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believeand tremble!
    But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
    Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?
    Do you see that faith was working together with his works,
    and by works faith was made perfect?
    And the Scripture was fulfilled which says,
    Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
    And he was called the friend of God.
    You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
    James 2:14:24



    Brothers, we see that even FAITH is not enough to be saved.
    You all, Muslims, can say that you love Jesus, but your love will not save you during the Judgment Day. Even those, who say that they believe in God Jesus, could not be saved.
    Because it is not enough to believe. If we do not do what God says, it means we are unbelievers! If we do not love people and God, we are unbelievers.
    What does God expect from us?
    Faith in His Son.
    Love for God.
    Love for people.
    Obedience/our faith should be worked out.

    Luke 21:25,26: Jesus says, Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world. See also Mark:13:24,25; Matt 24:29 & Rev 6:12-17

    Luke 21:28: When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.

    Rev 1 Look, He is coming with the clouds, and **EVERY** eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him. Just before His 2nd Coming every saved and lost person will be awakened to witness His 2nd Coming as per Matt 26:64; John 5:28,29 & Daniel 12:2 This will not include the martyrs and the 24 Elders on thrones who will already be awake as per Rev 4:4; 6:9-11; 7:9,14,15 & Rev 20:4-6.

    Matt 24:30,31; Mark 13:24,25; & Luke 21:27: At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will SEE the Son of Man (Jesus) coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud trumpet call {the 7th and Last Trumpet}, and they will gather His elect from the 4 winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. I Thess 4:16b,17: The dead in Christ will rise first, After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Mark 13:27b adds He will gather His elect from the ends of the earth {Saints on earth} to the ends of the heavens. {Saints in Heaven}

    I Corinthians 15:49,51,52: Just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so shall we bear the likeness of the Man from Heaven {See Rev 1:13-16}...We, Christians, will not all sleep, but we will **ALL** be changedin a *****, in the twinkling of an eye, at the {7th &} Last Trumpet!

    Then all of God's saints (christians) with their new heavenly bodies will celebrate the marriage Feast of the Lamb (Jesus): Rev 19:7,8: Hallelujah!... for the Wedding of the Lamb has come, and His bride has made herself ready. Fine linen, bright and clean was given her to wear!

    There will be 2 comings of Jesus on the same Last Day. The First will be **FOR** His saints (Christians) and the Second Coming will be **WITH** His saints to Jerusalem to protect the Jews during the attack of Muslim states and the anti-christ (or in translation instead-of Christ).

    Revelation 19:11,13;14, 19-21:I saw Heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose Rider is called Faithful and True... He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and His Name is the Word of God (Jesus- Ibn Allah). The armies of Heaven were following Him riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean {See Rev 19:8}....
    Then I saw the Beast (the anti-christ) and the {10} kings {See Rev 17:12-14 below} of the earth and their {10} armies gathered together to make war against the Rider on the horse and His Army. But the Beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf... The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the Rider (Jesus) on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh. {See Rev 17:12-14 and Jude 14-16}


    Rev 17:12-14; The 10 horns you saw are 10 kings (states)... They will give their power and authority to the Beast (the anti-christ). They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings.

    Then Satan {See Rev 16:13,14,16} and the rest of the armies of the world surrounded Jerusalem {After arriving at Armageddon valey just 55 miles North of Jerusalem} Rev 20:9,10: But fire came down from Heaven and devoured them. And the Devil who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the Beast and the False Prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    I Cor 15:20-24: But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the FIRSTFRUITS of those who have fallen asleep...For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ the FIRSTFRUITS; then when He comes, those who belong to Him. {*THEN*} the {*END*} will come, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.

    Luke 21:33: Jesus says Heaven and earth will pass away but My Words will never pass away! 2 Peter 7,10,13: The present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the Day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men... But the Day of the Lord {See I Cor 1:7,8} will come like a thief {To unbelievers}. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be burned up... But in keeping with His promise we are looking forward to a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH, the Home of righteousness.

    Revelation 20:11-14: Then I saw a great white **THRONE** {See Matt 25:31b below} and Him {Jesus} who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled away from His presence {See 2 Peter 3:10-12; I Cor 15:24 & Rev 21:1}, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another Book was opened, which is the Book of Life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the Books and each person was judged according to what he had done {See Rev 22:12}. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. If anyone's name was not found written in the Lamb's Book of Life {Dan 12:1b,2}, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

    Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: **WHEN** the Son of Man (Jesus) comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on **HIS THRONE** {See Rev 20:11 above} in Heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him and He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep (believers) on His right and the goats (unbelievers)on the left.

    *THEN* the King will say to those on the right, Come you who are blessed by My Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. {The New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New EarthSee Rev 21:1-5 & 2 Peter 3:10-13}

    **THEN* He will say to those on His left, Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. ....{See John 12:48; John 5:28,29; 2 Thess 1:6-10; Daniel 12:2}


    *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

    Rev 21 1:1-3: Then I saw a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH,
    for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away,
    and there was no longer any sea. {THEN} I saw the NEW JERUSALEM,
    coming down out of heaven from God...,
    And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying,
    Now the dwelling of God is with men,
    and He will live with them!!
    {You will note that the New Jerusalem will come only *AFTER the present heaven and earth have passed away.}
    They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God.
    He will wipe every tear from their eyes.
    There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain,
    for the old order of things has passed away.!!

    He (God) who was seated on the Throne said,
    I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!!


    Titus 2:13:
    *WE* wait for the *BLESSED HOPE*the glorious *APPEARING* of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

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    Brothers, to get right with God and His Son who is going BACK to the earth created by Him you need to REPENT of your sins, CONFESS them to God in a prayer/salat and TURN from your sins ABANDONING your lovers, crimes and sins which you will confess.
    Then God will immediately forgive you and write your name in the Book of Life to give you His World prepared for you since the creation of the world!!!
    Why?
    Because His Son Ibn Allah- died instead of you on the cross and took your sin and was killed instead you to give you eternal life.
    Now ACCEPT this LIFE!

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    Salam akhi,

    let's read together to understand who is out christian Allah:


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    I too got good copy/paste skills

    How many times have you heard Zionist Christians or Evangelical Zealots calling the Quran the Book of Death and destruction ? If I had a penny for all the times Ive heard that..hmm..I may just be able to purchase a nice villa in Vienna by now

    The famous Irish playwright George Bernard Shaw said about the Bible:

    The Bible is the most dangerous book on earth. Keep it under lock and key. Your child must not have access to it

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